Duquette on Hunter Harvey - "Looks like he's having TJ" (Surgery Scheduled)

[weams]

Can you tell me what the winning lottery numbers will be in 2019 too?

July 8th is my birthday so let's go with that day.

No. I can't. That is just chance.

[sportsfan8703]

There's no such thing as a pitching prospect. Harvey is going to be 23 in ST of 2018 and has only thrown 100ish professional innings. With missing last year it's going to seem like he will be balding the next time he takes the mound.

[jabba72]

I expect to see him in the majors in 2019. Without much of a team.

Harvey hasnt exactly been the picture of good health. 2019 would be the absolute ideal scenerio.

[bobmc]

Harvey hasnt exactly been the picture of good health. 2019 would be the absolute ideal scenerio.

Cory Sedlock should beat him to the show. Feel bad for him but TINSTAAPP unfortunately.

[Roll Tide]

And the hits just keep on coming ... They should've done it last summer

[ReclaimTheCrown]

Hunter seems to be the pitching version of David "Glassman" Segui. Something is always wrong. Can't blame the Orioles at all. They were very careful. The kid is just fragile. I doubt we ever see him again.

It's TJ, not an amputation. It's unfortunate, and it's a long road back, but it's a road many are able to travel. See him in 2018.

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[Rene88]

It's TJ, not an amputation. It's unfortunate, and it's a long road back, but it's a road many are able to travel. See him in 2018.

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What I don't get is everyone craps on Harvey when the Bundy's have had the same story. It's not over yet, best of luck to him.

[ChuckS]

What I don't get is everyone craps on Harvey when the Bundy's have had the same story. It's not over yet, best of luck to him.

Well, Bundy made it all the way up through the system and even to the big league club in his first full season.

Harvey has yet to pitch below Low A ball. Not quite the same story, but they both have missed a lot of time to injury and will of had TJ.

There may more optimism on Harvey if he had made it up to Double A and dominated. A lot has to go right now for him to end up in Baltimore before the end of the decade.

[sportsfan8703]

What I don't get is everyone craps on Harvey when the Bundy's have had the same story. It's not over yet, best of luck to him.

Same story really. Both guys were hyped nationally. Both were coddled and given a ton of 3 inning starts. Both ended up needing TJ. It's just frustrating that Harvey is just now getting it after missing all of last season. Notice that Dr. Andrews isn't doing the surgery.

[Aristotelian]

Plenty of good pitchers on this list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baseball_players_who_underwent_Tommy_John_surgery

I don't see how Harvey getting TJ says anything about the O's ability to develop pitchers. The O's policy on the cutter may be wrong, or there may be some other problem with the organization, but Harvey getting TJ is the least of our worries.

He will be delayed by a year but we still get him for six years of service time.

[btownoriole]

At what point would he have to be placed on the 40-man roster to be protected from the Rule 5? 2018?

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[Crazysilver03]

Well, Bundy made it all the way up through the system and even to the big league club in his first full season.

Harvey has yet to pitch below Low A ball. Not quite the same story, but they both have missed a lot of time to injury and will of had TJ.

There may more optimism on Harvey if he had made it up to Double A and dominated. A lot has to go right now for him to end up in Baltimore before the end of the decade.

Bundy didn't really earn the promotion in 2012. He was just the only warm body left on the 40 man roster to help the bullpen.

[Crazysilver03]

At what point would he have to be placed on the 40-man roster to be protected from the Rule 5? 2018?

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November 2017 is when he should be added to the 40 man

[Frobby]

November 2017 is when he should be added to the 40 man

So the fact that he missed all of 2015 doesn't matter, right? But do we get a fourth option? I think so, but the rules are hard to follow.

[Crazysilver03]

So the fact that he missed all of 2015 doesn't matter, right? But do we get a fourth option? I think so, but the rules are hard to follow.

Addition to 40 man roster is based on age and years since draft. The 4th option year is based on how many years of total service time between minor and major league. This is a pretty rare case and I don't think he would be eligible for the 4th option year. But that wouldnt be until 2021.