Joseph vs Wieters

[sportsfan8703]

MW hardly ever caught Ubaldo this year and pitch calling differences were probably the issue. Not saying MW was at fault at all. Just that the pitchers are more comfortable shaking off CJ.

I will say this. The year that MW went down with TJ surgery, CJ had a better catcher's ERA that year. Could be just another coincidence or could be the rotation got better once we made moves and Ubaldo stepped in that pot hole.

[TradeAngelos]

Human brains like patterns, and really like inferring cause-and-effect from patterns when there is none.

Haven't the pitchers also been doing much better with Borbon playing behind them?

There have been numerous studies to say catcher has pretty much nothing to do with pitchers performance, but that won't stop a fanbase who has it in their head " the other guy is better".

I mean just look at this past offseason, when the entire city tried to convince themselves a 28yr old catcher just coming onto the scene was better than Wieters.

This is about what the fans want in their hearts, and has nothing to do with anything else. And they are still wrong.

[TradeAngelos]

But all it takes a is a tiny 6 game sample to get the peanut gallery in an uproar! You see we were right!!

Where were you all when Joseph was hitting .185 for the past 4 months?

[BohKnowsBmore]

I don't care for catcher ERA, but isn't matts about a whole run below calebs this year?

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[atomic]

With an OPS of .482 I don't care how good a game he calls he shouldn't be starting very often.

When Gallardo pitches and Joseph catches they should use the DH for Joseph.

[Frobby]

Wieters 3.92 CERA, Joseph 4.52. We all know there's tons of noise in that data, but it certainly doesn't suggest Joseph has been better. For the pitchers now in the rotation (Wieters, then Joseph, incl. how many times Joseph has caught them).

Tillman: 3.32 vs. 1.12 (1 start)

Gausman: 4.26 vs. 4.24 (3 starts)

Gallardo: 5.04 vs. 7.11 (4 starts)

Bundy: 1.80 vs. 5.01 (14 games incl. one start)

Worley: 3.54 vs. 2.86 (9 games incl. one start)