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Should O's trade for reliever instead of starter?

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Uggh, I just had a nice long response deleted when my Chrome browser went "Aw Snap! mode! So frustrating!

Anyways, what I was saying was this is Buck problem, not a lack of relief options issues. Go look at our starters performances in the 6th inning. Only Tillman and Gausman have decent numbers, the rest are pretty much disasters. Buck has an unquenchable desire to get his starters through the 6th inning come hell or high water, but he doesn't have the starters to do that. In a close or tied game, Buck should always have a reliever ready to go in the 6th inning except for when Tillman and Gausman are on the mound.

I know he hates to warm up relievers without using them, but way too often he's seen the 6th inning snowball on him before he has a chance to get a guy loose and in the game.

Saying that, if the Orioles can get a left-handed reliever like Fernando Abad from Minnesota they should. This team needs a left-handed matchup guy.

Tony, you might want to try OPERA.

McNulty showed it to us in another thread.

http://www.opera.com

It is similar to Chrome, but better.

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I've never used it. You can't disable the ad blocker? I would think it would be an option.

I have used it, not a bad browser, I believe you can disable it.

I have 4 browsers loaded on my desktop, mainly use one, but sometimes, you never know, when you need another. :)

Chrome is my everyday one.

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Uggh, I just had a nice long response deleted when my Chrome browser went "Aw Snap! mode! So frustrating!

Anyways, what I was saying was this is Buck problem, not a lack of relief options issues. Go look at our starters performances in the 6th inning. Only Tillman and Gausman have decent numbers, the rest are pretty much disasters. Buck has an unquenchable desire to get his starters through the 6th inning come hell or high water, but he doesn't have the starters to do that. In a close or tied game, Buck should always have a reliever ready to go in the 6th inning except for when Tillman and Gausman are on the mound.

I know he hates to warm up relievers without using them, but way too often he's seen the 6th inning snowball on him before he has a chance to get a guy loose and in the game.

Saying that, if the Orioles can get a left-handed reliever like Fernando Abad from Minnesota they should. This team needs a left-handed matchup guy.

Tony, you might want to try OPERA.

McNulty showed it to us in another thread.

http://www.opera.com

It is similar to Chrome, but better.

That is my browser. ) :thumbsup1:

I have found it to be a significant improvement over Chrome ...... and I found Chrome to be a significant improvement over Mozilla.

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My blood pressure wants Andrew Miller. I'm still salty we didn't resign him. He changes the dynamics of a pitching staff. How much is shortening games in October worth?

It was impossible for us to resign MIller....our GM at the time was too busy picking out furniture for his new office in Toronto. Hence, we missed on a chance to win a winnable division last year. Then this year he figures he will defy baseball history and win without starting pitching. All the while the Yanks are getting younger, saving money, and getting ready for another five year run of dominance.

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Absolutely, the O's should be focusing on the bullpen. They improved the rotation by replacing Ubaldo and Tyler Wilson with Bundy and Worley, but now the bullpen is thin. Despaigne and Roe are journeymen who can't be trusted to protect a lead in the 6th inning, which is a serious problem if you have 3 starters who are only good for 5 innings.

Starting pitching and closers are insanely overpriced at the moment, but it shouldn't take a king's ransom to get a LOOGY and a righty middle reliever who are upgrades over Despaigne and Roe.

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