Ubaldo, Wade, and Yovani -- Who gets dumped after 2016?

[Aglets]

As GM can we hear your argument to PA as to why he should eat 13M?

Simple. It's what's best for the team. Should be pretty obvious if he's been watching the past 3 years.

At this point spending $13M for a roster spot is better for the team then paying $13M to have Ubaldo in the spot.

[O's84]

None of them, I will.

[LookitsPuck]

As GM can we hear your argument to PA as to why he should eat 13M?

"I screwed up. He stinks. Literally any random starter in the minors could possibly do better." - Duquette

[dorfmac]

Safe to say that we won't see any return of value for any of the three. I'd be totally fine with taking all three of them into spring training, seeing if the offseason led to any improvements, and if not, then dumping them at that point.

It's not like releasing them in October/November is much different than dumping them in mid-March, and at least you get the chance to see if you can salvage any value for them in 2017.

The only other option I'd consider is a classic change-of-scenery type trade in the offseason. If the player we get back doesn't show anything in spring training, then dump them, too.

[Aristotelian]

Rose on Intentional Talk speculated he would be a trade target last season for Orioles. I expect that drum to beat louder this offseason. The

Brewers have a new sheriff in town and is cleaning house it would appear.

Is there any reason to believe Rose has better knowledge of the Orioles than anyone on this board?

[PaulFolk]

I think Ubaldo was not on the playoff roster in 2014. I foresee the same if there's a playoff run for the O's this year. No need for a mop up guy in postseason.

Ubaldo actually did make the ALDS roster in 2014, but he didn't pitch. Then he was left off the ALCS roster with Matusz taking his place.

[NashLumber]

Ubaldo actually did make the ALDS roster in 2014, but he didn't pitch. Then he was left off the ALCS roster with Matusz taking his place.

Ok, thanks. I was thinking the ALCS. Didn't realize he was on the roster the Tigers series.

[weams]

If I'm the GM, Ubaldo is gone from this group, and he probably would've been gone awhile ago.

If you're asking me to predict the future...........honestly I wouldn't be surprised if all three of them report to Spring Training with us in 2017.

The GM had him traded, he was not permitted to.

[sportsfan8703]

Miley and Ubaldo for Markakis. The money matches up pretty much.

[LookitsPuck]

Miley and Ubaldo for Markakis. The money matches up pretty much.

Why on Earth want to trade a relatively productive player in Markakis (1.9 WAR in 2015, 1.3 WAR so far in 2016) for bad (Miley) and awful (Ubaldo) that is making > $20m next year?

[WEAVERMAN]

All three. I'd say they're all here next year though.

I want to get rid of all three as well, but I think Miley and Gallardo are back.

[Tx Oriole]

In my opinion, we cannot afford to have all three of Ubaldo, Wade, and Yovani on our team taking up roster spots next season. At least one of them has to go. We will have Tillman, Gausman, and Bundy penned into the starting rotation...if we need placeholders we can keep any two of those guys. But having all three is a waste of valuable roster space. Who do we dump in exchange for a bag of balls in the offseason?

I imagine you want all three gone.

[Tx Oriole]

Miley and Ubaldo for Markakis. The money matches up pretty much.

Markakis is done. IMO

[crawjo]

If you dropped all three, we'd be screwed. The money is spent, we don't have a lot of options in the minors, and the FA pickings are very slim this year. I predict both Miley and Gallardo will be in the rotation next year. If one of them gets injured or falters, then Jimenez gets into the rotation. It makes no sense to drop these guys unless we have better options. (And I don't consider Wright or Wilson better options...and anyway we still need them for depth. You need a lot more than five starting pitching options at the start of the season, to prepare for potential injuries, poor performance, spot starts, etc.)