Orioles discussing a qualifying offer to Wieters again this offseason

[Larry18]

Idk about that. Apparently Fred and the Mets lost about $500 million, and are saddled with Bobby Bonilla.

They borrowed huge sums of money for construction of Citi Field and to start up a RSN. They were counting on Madoff money to pay off those loans. They didn't lose money, they borrowed more than they could afford.

EDIT: Howard Megdal wrote Wilpon's Folly which details their involvement in the Madoff case.

[MDtransplant757]

They borrowed huge sums of money for construction of Citi Field and to start up a RSN. They were counting on Madoff money to pay off those loans. They didn't lose money, they borrowed more than they could afford.

EDIT: Howard Megdal wrote Wilpon's Folly which details their involvement in the Madoff case.

NYC paid for most of Citi field, but the rest of it is shockingly true. I'd rep you if I could. Still explains why Wilpon is being a tight arse. Mets are going to have to choose between Harvey, Synderguard and DeGrom. I'd hate to be the GM in that position.

[Larry18]

NYC paid for most of Citi field, but the rest of it is shockingly true. I'd rep you if I could. Still explains why Wilpon is being a tight arse. Mets are going to have to choose between Harvey, Synderguard and DeGrom. I'd hate to be the GM in that position.

You should read the Megdal book. It will give you the basics on the Wlipon's finances. It would derail this thread even more than I already have to try and detail the whole gamut of bad investments they have made in the past decade.

[Bahama O's Fan]

Yes, give a QO to Wieters. I was for one to Markakis back then and I am for one here. If he takes it, well, we have a hole at catcher anyway and it's only for one year.

[MDtransplant757]

Yes' date=' give a QO to Wieters. I was for one to Markakis back then and I am for one here. If he takes it, well, we have a hole at catcher anyway and it's only for one year.[/quote']

That's a big hole offensively and defensively

[atomic]

That's a big hole offensively and defensively

I we don't have Wieters back we will need to sign a free agent catcher or trade for a catcher.

[MDtransplant757]

I we don't have Wieters back we will need to sign a free agent catcher or trade for a catcher.

Who would we get? I don't like any of the catchers on the market, and trading for one would cost a pretty penny.

[Redskins Rick]

Who would we get? I don't like any of the catchers on the market, and trading for one would cost a pretty penny.

People dont understand the game, make statements that are not very realistic.

Wieters is head and shoulders better than any FA catcher on the market.

I do not believe any team is going to give up a quality starting catcher, unless a team is willing to over pay.

[MDtransplant757]

People dont understand the game, make statements that are not very realistic.

Wieters is head and shoulders better than any FA catcher on the market.

I do not believe any team is going to give up a quality starting catcher, unless a team is willing to over pay.

But what would we pay for someone who is meh at best? I'd rather just stick to Wieters for 2 years and call it a night.

[Redskins Rick]

But what would we pay for someone who is meh at best? I'd rather just stick to Wieters for 2 years and call it a night.

I agree, but Wieters is going to want 4 year deal. IMO

[MDtransplant757]

I agree, but Wieters is going to want 4 year deal. IMO

4 years or longer is what I'd want if I were him. I don't think he comes back, but it wouldn't be bad to try and bring him back for at most 3 years.

[LAOSfan]

Am I late, or has someone already posted that Heyman is reporting the O's won't make a Q.O. to Wieters?

[Redskins Rick]

Am I late, or has someone already posted that Heyman is reporting the O's won't make a Q.O. to Wieters?

Heyman reported that a couple of weeks ago. Bleacher Report reran that today, like it was new news.

Roch said back in August, that the FO was leaning against doing it.

[weams]

Am I late, or has someone already posted that Heyman is reporting the O's won't make a Q.O. to Wieters?

Nope. http://m.orioles.mlb.com/news/article/208275070/no-matt-wieters-qualifying-offer-from-orioles/

[El Gordo]

So 5:00PM today?