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As of today, would you trade places with Royals fans for the last 20 years?


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Orioles: 14 straight losing seasons, followed by five straight non-losing seasons, one division title snd ALCS appearance, one winning wild card game and ALDS loss, one wild card game loss, look to be a winning team again this year and maybe next, future fuzzy after that. 

Royals: 15 straight losing seasons (actually, 19 if you go back further than '98), followed by four straight non-losing seasons, including a World Series title and another World Series appearance, but now look headed for a noncompetitive season and perhaps a lengthy rebuild.    

So, would you rather be a Royals fan, with a longer losing streak, a shorter burst of competitiveness, and facing immediate return of noncompetitivenes, but having obtained the ultimate prize in recent memory?    Or would you rather be an Orioles fan, still with a long noncompetitive period, a longer (and still ongoing) competitive period, but no ultimate orize and a still uncertain mid-term future?

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I'm going to say yes only because the Orioles have been one of the worst teams in baseball over that time period. The only thing the Orioles have over the Royals is one more playoff appearance and fewer 95+ loss seasons. Whoopie doo. I'll take the two World Series appearances over that one additional playoff appearance without any hesitation. 

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It's a close run thing, but I think winning the WS weighs more heavily on the scale than just a handful of additional winning seasons, so I'd have to give the edge in terms of fan experience over the past 20 years to the Royals.  However, if over that period the Orioles had been significantly more competitive than the Royals (e.g., shorter losing season streak and a few additional playoff experiences scattered about), then even without winning a WS I'd say the superior fan experience would be with the O's.  There's nothing worse than an extended streak of losing seasons.  

Not really part of the criteria, but they also get to play in the wasteland that is the AL Central (the Indians notwithstanding) and don't have to compete with the Red Sox and Yankee juggernauts for their division each year, which must be nice.  Now, would I ever want to actually be a Royals fan?  No thank you.  

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When I was a kid in the 70's and early 80's, I knew that my team had a chance to win it every year.

They might win the World Series, they might lose the World Series, they might lose in the ALCS, or they might finish a close 2nd or 3rd to the AL East division winner ........ but they always had a chance.

 

For myself, I don't ask for more than that for several reasons. In the first place, the postseason is often a crapshoot (especially these days, with 5 teams from each league making it there.)  Secondly, back when I was a kid, the Orioles had seasons of going 97-64 with one rainout (1977), and 100-62 (1980) in which they did not make the postseason, because there was no Wildcard at the time.

 

I see my fandom of the sports teams that I root for similar to the way that I see life ........ it is a journey, with the possibility of reaching a pot of gold (or several pots of gold) at some point. The rainbow is the journey, and the enjoyment and the drama in that journey (including all of the successes and failures, the ups and downs, etc.) is what is most important to me.

And for all of those reasons, I am satisfied (and grateful) with the teams that Harry Dalton, Frank Cashen, and Hank Peters put on the field in my childhood, and also with the teams that Andy MacPhail and Dan Duquette have put on the field recently

 

I suppose that I didn't answer Frobby's question in a simple and direct manner, but perhaps that is fitting, considering my feelings that I expressed on the matter.

 

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I would do almost anything to hear Joe Buck go

"Here we are, game 7, Camden Yards and Zach Britton needs one more pitch and the Orioles win it."

*One long pause later*

"STRIKE THREE CALLED! AND THE BALTIMORE ORIOLES ARE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS"

Jesus Christ! The feels!

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3 minutes ago, $Greatness$ said:

I would do almost anything to hear Joe Buck go

"Here we are, game 7, Camden Yards and Zach Britton needs one more pitch and the Orioles win it."

*One long pause later*

"STRIKE THREE CALLED! AND THE BALTIMORE ORIOLES ARE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS"

Jesus Christ! The feels!

The bold only.

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2 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Definitely take the WS championship, and I don't think the Royals re-build will take that long not with the mess that is the AL Central

Their last rebuild took 19 years, which would make me nervous if I were a Royals fan.     Their lack of resources also would concern me.   I should add that I'm plenty nervous about how long the Orioles' next rebuild might take, when it comes.   

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