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Drifter Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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24 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Without being able to change his mind, what do you do?

I buy Ubaldo a one-way ticket to anywhere in the world he wants to go. Yea, he's a nice guy, but enough is enough. It's time to move on.

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If I were forced to buy, I hate to say it, but I'd make more Miranda-for-Miley type trades -- and hopefully they'd turn out better than that one did. In other words, I'd trade a guy who's considered a fringe prospect (as Miranda was) for a guy who at least has a track record of being an average major leaguer (as Miley was). Don't touch the top prospects like Hays, Mullins, Mountcastle, and Akin.

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4 minutes ago, Drifter said:

Yes.. it does.

In what way?

The premise of the the thread is that Angelos tells you, "You must be a buyer at the deadline." And your response is "OK, I'm getting rid of Ubaldo."

That's not buying. That's a totally separate decision. You can get rid of Ubaldo if you want, but you haven't addressed the question of how you would be a buyer.

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1 minute ago, PaulFolk said:

If I were forced to buy, I hate to say it, but I'd make more Miranda-for-Miley type trades -- and hopefully they'd turn out better than that one did. In other words, I'd trade a guy who's considered a fringe prospect (as Miranda was) for a guy who at least has a track record of being an average major leaguer (as Miley was). Don't touch the top prospects like Hays, Mullins, Mountcastle, and Akin.

Who fits that description (Miranda)? Most guys in that age range have been exposed (like Wright, Wilson, Verrett, etc.) Lee, maybe (?)

If I was instructed to sell, Sisco would be my chip.  Mountcastle, Hays, Akin, Scott are most likely "no"s.

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