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27 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Interesting article here on the “buyer’s market” at 3B.    It’s about how that applies to the Blue Jays and Josh Donaldson, but it’s equally applicable to the Orioles and Manny.    This sentence is telling: “Historically, the public expectation of what elite players will return in trade is less than they actually return when traded.”

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/third-base-looks-like-a-buyers-market/

More evidence as to why the Hardy signing was such a disaster. In fact signing Hardy was the first major step on the road back to irrelevance.

Manny should have been moved to SS in 2015, where his value to himself and to the O's (in a trade) would have soared.

 

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4 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

More evidence as to why the Hardy signing was such a disaster. In fact signing Hardy was the first major step on the road back to irrelevance.

Manny should have been moved to SS in 2015, where his value to himself and to the O's (in a trade) would have soared.

 

And the O's probably would've picked up a first rounder.

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3 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

More evidence as to why the Hardy signing was such a disaster. In fact signing Hardy was the first major step on the road back to irrelevance.

Manny should have been moved to SS in 2015, where his value to himself and to the O's (in a trade) would have soared.

 

The fact that Manny can play SS is one reason he probably is a bit immune from the glut of 3B talent on the market.      I agree his trade value would be a bit higher if he’d been a SS the last three years, but at bottom, I think people still know he can play SS, based on what we saw for a month in 2016 and in the WBC.

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2 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

So...Jim Duquette just said Manny has stated that he wants to play in New York. Has anybody else heard this before?

He might be reading into this comment Manny made in an interview with the New York Post.

“I’m sure now when we go to New York, it’s going to be crazy,’’ the Orioles superstar told The Post of the free-agent rumors. “I know there is talk about the future and maybe me, Gary [Sanchez] and [Bryce] Harper being together. That’s New York. That’s what goes on. … You never know what to expect in this game.

“Those are things you can’t control,’’ he said. “You can’t control what people are going to say, but I can go out there and do what I can to get to that situation and put myself in a good situation for my family to do big things.’’

Asked if he is going to keep all his options open, Machado said, “100 percent.’’

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20 hours ago, Frobby said:

So you’re putting Manny above Cal Ripken?   I’m certainly not ready to go there.    95 WAR, two MVP’s, 19 all-star appearances, and four seasons with a higher WAR than a Manny has ever had to date, including two at ages 22 and 23.   I’ll grant you that Manny seems likely to top Eddie Murray, but Cal set a pretty tough standard to top.   

I think you're correct, but mainly because Cal played his full career for the Orioles and his career is now over.   We'll see how the rest of Manny's career plays out - unfortunately, I doubt most of it will end up being as an Oriole.  Let's agree to revisit this in 10-12 years.  Deal?  :-)

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10 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

Not sure what you mean there. I guess there have always been assumptions but I had never heard anything as definite as that.

Was just a simple joke, no deeper meaning.

I was just implying that I didn't think he had an actual, reliable source telling him that.

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20 minutes ago, phillyOs119 said:

He might be reading into this comment Manny made in an interview with the New York Post.

“I’m sure now when we go to New York, it’s going to be crazy,’’ the Orioles superstar told The Post of the free-agent rumors. “I know there is talk about the future and maybe me, Gary [Sanchez] and [Bryce] Harper being together. That’s New York. That’s what goes on. … You never know what to expect in this game.

“Those are things you can’t control,’’ he said. “You can’t control what people are going to say, but I can go out there and do what I can to get to that situation and put myself in a good situation for my family to do big things.’’

Asked if he is going to keep all his options open, Machado said, “100 percent.’’

Is this a recent article?

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Thanks.   Reading the whole thing, he also talks about being comfortable in Baltimore.    At the end of the day, I think Manny’s going wherever the money takes him.    

Yeah, I believe people were freaking out when the article came out, but I didn't think to much of it.  Of course if asked if he would be open to the possibility of playing with a couple of the top young talents in baseball, he'd be ok with that.

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