Connolly: Ruben Tejada leader for O's UIF job

[Luke-OH]

20 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Concussion symptoms: http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/clubhouse_insider/2017/05/brock_holt_shut_down_for_foreseeable_future_with_lingering

I don't know if it explains the loss of speed, but at least it explains some of the collapse in production, thanks.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

Tejada, Sardinas, and Wilkerson in a competition in Spring Training. Tejada probably gets it (experience from last year), Sardinas in Norfolk as the emergency guy, Wilkerson in Bowie working as a utility but spending some time improving at short.

[jamalshw]

I just really hope that the O's don't go out and waste a million or two on a utility guy who isn't going to play much. Adding another minor league contract (or two) to the mix is fine, but I'm okay with these options and putting all the rest of the funds towards pitching (with a mid-level OF addition like Jay to fill out the offensive end of the roster).

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

6 hours ago, Tx Oriole said:

Wish he would retire and come in as a coach. 

That would be awesome.  And agree on Hardy not being an ideal candidate for a utility player.  

[Redskins Rick]

2 hours ago, phillyOs119 said:

Was he hurt last year?  He was terrible and he wasn't good in 2016 either, I doubt he has much value at this point.  He was pretty solid in 2014-2015, but I'm not convinced that he's anything like that player anymore.  He's lost 1.1 ft/sec in speed (according to the statcast sprint leaderboard.  His hard hit balls have decreased significantly as have his line drives which has led to a lower BABIP and virtual no power.  Defensive numbers have gotten worse as well.

Trending in the wrong direction thats for sure, hard to regain lost speed.

[Frobby]

One of the most annoying games of 2017 came on Sept. 18, when Dylan Bundy was handed a 6-1 lead going into the top of the 5th inning and couldn’t hold it.    Holt came into that game to substitute for Pedroia in the 4th inning, got behind in the count 1-2 but hit a double and eventually scored Boston’s first run.   Then he came up again in the 5th, and hit a bases  loaded single that knocked Bundy out of the game.   He was hitting .175 going into that game, so it was super-aggravating.     Funny how some things just stick in your craw (and yes, I did need to look up the exact details).   

[wildcard]

6 hours ago, murph said:

Brock Holt anyone?

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2017/11/tending-to-non-tender-business.html

The Red Sox are not non tendering Holt.

http://m.redsox.mlb.com/news/article/262627328/red-sox-non-tender-deadline-preview/

 

[murph]

52 minutes ago, Frobby said:

One of the most annoying games of 2017 came on Sept. 18, when Dylan Bundy was handed a 6-1 lead going into the top of the 5th inning and couldn’t hold it.    Holt came into that game to substitute for Pedroia in the 4th inning, got behind in the count 1-2 but hit a double and eventually scored Boston’s first run.   Then he came up again in the 5th, and hit a bases  loaded single that knocked Bundy out of the game.   He was hitting .175 going into that game, so it was super-aggravating.     Funny how some things just stick in your craw (and yes, I did need to look up the exact details).   

OFFNY says....pffft

[LookitsPuck]

So this is the thing that is do damn annoying. These utility infielders are plentiful, cheap...yet we clog roster spots for guys like Flaherty due to our infatuation with the Rule V. Seemingly every year we should be doing something like acquiring a Tejada instead of wasting a spot on guys like Flaherty. Just saying.

[Luke-OH]

40 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

So this is the thing that is do damn annoying. These utility infielders are plentiful, cheap...yet we clog roster spots for guys like Flaherty due to our infatuation with the Rule V. Seemingly every year we should be doing something like acquiring a Tejada instead of wasting a spot on guys like Flaherty. Just saying.

Ehh, Flaherty had two years where he was more successful than Tejada will probably ever be going forward. The mistake wasn’t selecting and rostering Flaherty, it was keeping him around after he stopped being useful. That seems to be something of an organizational philosophy.

[Redskins Rick]

11 minutes ago, phillyOs119 said:

Ehh, Flaherty had two years where he was more successful than Tejada will probably ever be going forward. The mistake wasn’t selecting and rostering Flaherty, it was keeping him around after he stopped being useful. That seems to be something of an organizational philosophy.

I think his play in 2014 filling in for Manny was admirable, he will never replace Manny, but he still played above defense at third and hit decently.

I think they brought in more than one candidate, like Janish, but Janish while better with the glove at third, was even weaker with the bat.

 

[Redskins Rick]

I meant better at short.

[LookitsPuck]

49 minutes ago, phillyOs119 said:

Ehh, Flaherty had two years where he was more successful than Tejada will probably ever be going forward. The mistake wasn’t selecting and rostering Flaherty, it was keeping him around after he stopped being useful. That seems to be something of an organizational philosophy.

I think my point here isn't necessary Tejada being signed here going forward, but rather he's so replaceable for cheap...that the O's dealing with the problems associating with keeping Rule V picks on the roster...and then keeping them around far long after is just indicative of the folly of Duquette's infatuation with the Rule V pick.

[wildcard]

4 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

I think my point here isn't necessary Tejada being signed here going forward, but rather he's so replaceable for cheap...that the O's dealing with the problems associating with keeping Rule V picks on the roster...and then keeping them around far long after is just indicative of the folly of Duquette's infatuation with the Rule V pick.

Flaherty played on some of the best teams the O's  have had in the last 20 years.  He was a contributor to those teams.  Not a leader or a regular but someone that Buck used to put together a winning combination.  

[Frobby]

5 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Flaherty played on some of the best teams the O's  have had in the last 20 years.  He was a contributor to those teams.  Not a leader or a regular but someone that Buck used to put together a winning combination.  

Chico Salmon, Lenn Sakata and Jeff Reboulet say hello.   Every good team has a guy like this.