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5 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

The next most important thing to do is to trade Britton, and Trumbo and Brach.

Yea this is more important than re-signing guys.  Also figuring out our Manager/GM situation.  If Dan is our guy, give him a new contract so he can put a plan in place.

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1 minute ago, clapdiddy said:

I would include Schoop as well.   I said in another thread...I don't think his value will be any higher than it is right now.

I wouldn't automatically trade Schoop, but I agree, he is the next Machado situation.  Extend him or trade him.

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4 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

The next most important thing to do is to trade Britton, and Trumbo and Brach.

I agree. If Manny is traded then they need to decide who else gets moved this off season. 

Britton, Brach, Jones, O'Day and Trumbo should all be in play if Manny is traded.

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1 minute ago, billw76 said:

I agree. If Manny is traded then they need to decide who else gets moved this off season. 

Britton, Brach, Jones, O'Day and Trumbo should all be in play if Manny is traded.

Absolutely.  And I don't think the Orioles are wedded to Trumbo.  They will have to eat part of the contract - but I think that will be worth it to clear up the roster spot and get something in return.

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15 minutes ago, Camden_yardbird said:

The next most important thing to do is to extend some of the core players so the Orioles don't end up in this situation again.  Get some more years then the arb years at a cheaper rate.  It creates more flexibility in the future.

Gausman, Bundy, Schoop and Mancini would be the primary targets IMO.  The Orioles have to engender some interest in the team and making sure you have players fans can root for is a big part of that.

I have a Wieters jersey,  I have a Machado jersey.  I don't know why would spend on player specific merchandise until I knew that player was going to be around for awhile. (Yes, I realize a Wieters extension would have been a mistake.)  

I agree with you. The team has to start signing young players they believe in to extensions early. It is the only way this team will be able to keep their star players long term. 

Think of Goldschmidt, Yelich, Archer, Kluber, Bumgarner, Sale, Rizzo, Altuve - and even Trout. Those contracts are incredibly valuable.

I know it's the offseason and its easy to get excited about trading everyone for prospects - but I don't think anybody wants the O's to be run like the Oakland A's where every player is traded once they hit their second year of arbitration. Ultimately, this team needs to get better at locking up promising players that locks them up for a year or two of free agency.

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and yet another thread for Manny. :)

He hasn't been traded, yet.

Yes, I know, he most likely will, but not going to count that bridge, until I see it.

Roch has this to say:

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Duquette said no clubs have requested a 72-hour window to negotiate an extension with Machado before agreeing to a trade - which tells me that talks haven’t advanced.

A lot of tire kicking going on thats for sure, but I suspect teams will wait a season and then go after him.

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Yes, if we extended him we'd be buying high on Schoop, but it would still be a small fraction of what it would cost to extend Manny.  I think you have to have at least a few guys to build around.  Some of the "can't miss" prospects we get in these kinds of deals will inevitably be busts (especially in our organization if they are pitchers let's face it).  So I think we should at least try to extend Schoop and possibly Bundy too.  

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Just now, Redskins Rick said:

and yet another thread for Manny. :)

He hasn't been traded, yet.

Yes, I know, he most likely will, but not going to count that bridge, until I see it.

Roch has this to say:

A lot of tire kicking going on thats for sure, but I suspect teams will wait a season and then go after him.

I wouldn't put it past 50/50 right now, even with all the smoke.  Any deal still needs to get past the owner.

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2 minutes ago, theocean said:

I agree with you. The team has to start signing young players they believe in to extensions early. It is the only way this team will be able to keep their star players long term. 

Think of Goldschmidt, Yelich, Archer, Kluber, Bumgarner, Sale, Rizzo, Altuve - and even Trout. Those contracts are incredibly valuable.

I know it's the offseason and its easy to get excited about trading everyone for prospects - but I don't think anybody wants the O's to be run like the Oakland A's where every player is traded once they hit their second year of arbitration. Ultimately, this team needs to get better at locking up promising players that locks them up for a year or two of free agency.

Great point.  That ship has obviously sailed on Machado, but it's not too late for Schoop, Bundy, Gausman, or Mancini (although we should probably give Mancini at least another year to prove he isn't a flash in the pan).  

Yes, we should be looking to trade Brach, O'Day, Britton, and Jones after we trade Manny.  But I'm hesitant to let go of the younger guys unless someone totally blows us away with an unbelievable package.

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21 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

I would include Schoop as well.   I said in another thread...I don't think his value will be any higher than it is right now.

Schoop has 3 more years of team control.  You can't trade him now.   You have to have some good players on the team. 

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