Orioles out On Cobb per Roch

[wildcard]

3 minutes ago, phillyOs119 said:

The lottery is gone with the new CBA.

The teams in round A and round B switch every year as long as the teams still qualify for the pick.

So the Orioles will pick in round A in 2018.

Thanks.  Just trying to keep up here.

[tntoriole]

2 hours ago, Going Underground said:

Roch Kubatko for about the third time has said the Orioles like Cobb,but too expensive. Also like Vargas and Cashner.Just tweeted out again, today.

Orioles (as fiance speaking to their prospective bride...i.e. us fans)...."Honey, I know you really have your heart set on that diamond engagement ring,  but it is too expensive, so here is a very nice box of Cracker Jack."   

[weams]

2 hours ago, wildcard said:

This is the category of the CBA that I think the O's fall into for signing a FA with a QO:

• A team that didn’t exceed the luxury tax and also received revenue sharing in the preceding season would forfeit only its third-highest pick in the next year’s draft.

Here are the three categories for FA compensation:

• Any team that paid the luxury tax in the preceding season will forfeit its second- and fifth-highest draft selections in next year’s draft as well as $1MM of its international bonus pool in the upcoming period.
• A team that did not exceed the luxury tax threshold but contributes to revenue sharing would forfeit its second-highesr draft pick as well as $500K of its upcoming international bonus pool.
• A team that didn’t exceed the luxury tax and also received revenue sharing in the preceding season would forfeit only its third-highest pick in the next year’s draft.

The way I read it teams that have a revenue score of a 100 or more are Payors.   Teams with less than a 100 are Payees meaning  they receive revenue sharing.   The O's score in 2016 was 70.   The score is re-formulated every year but with the O's attendance dropping in 2017 I have to believe they received revenue sharing in 2017.

So our second round pick. 

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, weams said:

So our second round pick. 

Dan's given up more for less.

I'm sure the Rays will enjoy the pick.

[Tx Oriole]

4 hours ago, Going Underground said:

Roch Kubatko for about the third time has said the Orioles like Cobb,but too expensive. Also like Vargas and Cashner.Just tweeted out again, today.

And that's the way it will be. Good pitchers will be too expensive for Angelos's puppet. 

[Going Underground]

4 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He is essentially a paid employee of the team.

Can we take out the word essentially. And all through the warehouse not a discouraging Oriole word 

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Can we take out the word essentially. And all through the warehouse not a discouraging Oriole word 

Technically he works for MASN not the Orioles.

That is the distinction I was making.

[Going Underground]

One of the genius pundits have the orioles signing Cashner or Vargas, Fister and Tillman. Chatwood as a sleeper. We shall see. I am sure nobody knows and depends where and what the pitcher wants and what the Orioles offer.

[Aglets]

Let's sign CC Sabathia and throw everyone for a loop.

[Camden_yardbird]

Cobb always has been a pipe dream.  I know a lot of projections have him around $60 million.  I would not be surprised to see it at 90 to 100.

[wildcard]

52 minutes ago, Aglets said:

Let's sign CC Sabathia and throw everyone for a loop.

If the Yankees sign Otani and are out on Sabathia I would think the O's will be one of the teams trying to sign him.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, wildcard said:

If the Yankees sign Otani and are out on Sabathia I would think the O's will be one of the teams trying to sign him.

I'd bet money that if he isn't back with the Yankees he's in the National league.

[wildcard]

10 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd bet money that if he isn't back with the Yankees he's in the National league.

Hmmm... He has spent 16 of his 17 years in the AL.   He knows the hitters and has been successful in getting them out.  I don't look for him to change leagues and start over.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, wildcard said:

Hmmm... He has spent 16 of his 17 years in the AL.   He knows the hitters and has been successful in getting them out.  I don't look for him to change leagues and start over.

Word is that before the Yankees signed him his strong preference was to stay in the National league. 

It is also the easier league to pitch in.

[Camden_yardbird]

I think Sabathia ends up back in Miluakee.