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2 hours ago, phillyOs119 said:

Hey, for what it’s worth...

Steamer projects Cargo for a 101 wRC+ 

Steamer projects Austin Hays for a  102 wRC+ 

Steamer projects Anthony Santander for a 97 wRC+

ZiPS projects Cargo for an 88 wRC+

ZiPS projects Hays for a 103 wRC+

ZiPS projects Santander for a 93 wRC+

wRC+ is a context neutral metric that tries to assess total value with the bat. It corrects for the Coors field environment among other things.

Cargo is also poor defensively which isn’t consider the numbers above.

Edit: 100 is league average for wRC+ and higher is better.

Excellent. 

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5 hours ago, oriole said:

I think he'd do well in Camden Yards. Give him the pillow contract and put him in RF.

He didn’t do well in Denver last year, so Camden Yards may not be a boon for his offense. Could be the beginning of a steady decline.

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35 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I just don't see the point.

Frankly it reminds me of the Dark Days and names like Payton and Millar.

Just because Dan can get someone to take his money doesn't mean he should.

What's the point in signing whatever god awful SP they'll inevitably sign? You just hope for the best. I'm not going to care much of Gonzalez isn't signed and I definitely understand why you guys don't like him...I just want to see a left handed hitter in the OF on a one year contract and Gonzalez fits that mold. Barring a meltdown in the northeast this summer coupled with an insurgence of the entire rotation (I'm still assuming whoever they sign will be awful), the O's are screwed. Gonzalez makes things more interesting from my perspective. 

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Just now, oriole said:

What's the point in signing whatever god awful SP they'll inevitably sign? You just hope for the best. I'm not going to care much of Gonzalez isn't signed and I definitely understand why you guys don't like him...I just want to see a left handed hitter in the OF on a one year contract and Gonzalez fits that mold. Barring a meltdown in the northeast this summer coupled with an insurgence of the entire rotation (I'm still assuming whoever they sign will be awful), the O's are screwed. Gonzalez makes things more interesting from my perspective. 

I'd rather watch the kids.

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1 minute ago, oriole said:

What's the point in signing whatever god awful SP they'll inevitably sign? 

Actually, I hope they do sign Vargas, Cashner or other scrubs at this point. Anyone on a cheap one year deal is acceptable. I don’t care how awful they may be. 

I’m still hoping for a rebuild and don’t want any multi year deals clogging up the possible return from Machado, Jones, Schoop or whoever.

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24 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd rather watch the kids.

Overall I would too...but it seems too early to hand Hays the job. I feel like he still has to prove he can hit MLB pitching. A veteran stopgap would be nice, hence my support for Gonzalez.

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23 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

Actually, I hope they do sign Vargas, Cashner or other scrubs at this point. Anyone on a cheap one year deal is acceptable. I don’t care how awful they may be. 

I’m still hoping for a rebuild and don’t want any multi year deals clogging up the possible return from Machado, Jones, Schoop or whoever.

Vargas and Cashner will get multi year deals and it'll probably be for stupid money. I'm not looking forward to the day I find out who the O's overpaid to lose games.

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30 minutes ago, oriole said:

Overall I would too...but it seems too early to hand Hays the job. I feel like he still has to prove he can hit MLB pitching. A veteran stopgap would be nice, hence my support for Gonzalez.

If we need a stopgap I'd rather he be a plus defender.

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