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8 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I remember the speculation that players would be more likely to play for the O's because of Buck.

Didn't really work out that way.

I remember when signing Leo Mazzone was going usher in a new era of dominant Orioles pitching.

That didn't work out either.  

Straw-grasping - the next Olympic sport.  Born in Baltimore.
 

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9 minutes ago, joelala said:

I'm praying daily that Cashner will command too big of a contract for us to sign him.  I think we'll get Miggy/Tillman (one or the other,) Jason Vargas, and Glenn Perkins on a minor league deal.

Cashner is looking for a three year deal. I wouldn’t be comfortable with anything except a one year deal. He won’t be signing a one year deal. Are the Orioles stupid enough to sign him for more than one year? I hate that I know the answer to this question.

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3 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

Cashner is looking for a three year deal. I wouldn’t be comfortable with anything except a one year deal. He won’t be signing a one year deal. Are the Orioles stupid enough to sign him for more than one year? I hate that I know the answer to this question.

I'm actually not sure of the answer.  I think we may dodge a bullet here.

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I just wish they would do something.   I still have held to the prediction I made Day 1 of the offseason...Miggy, Tillman and that is it.   Bundy, Gausman, Gonzalez, then two of Tillman, Castro, Ynoa, Cortes, etc.  

I think the Manny situation is keeping DD from signing any pitching.  Because if he gets any pitching back in a Manny deal, then he definitely will not be signing any of the available free agents...except maybe Tillman. 

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1 minute ago, tntoriole said:

I just wish they would do something.   I still have held to the prediction I made Day 1 of the offseason...Miggy, Tillman and that is it.   Bundy, Gausman, Gonzalez, then two of Tillman, Castro, Ynoa, Cortes, etc.  

I think the Manny situation is keeping DD from signing any pitching.  Because if he gets any pitching back in a Manny deal, then he definitely will not be signing any of the available free agents...except maybe Tillman. 

As long as it’s a one year deal. Better chance they go into a rebuilding mode without actually announcing it, if they’re not constrained by extraneous multi-year deals. The word “rebuilding” seems to be anathema to the owner.

Tillman and Gonzalez on one year deals is underwhelming but safe.

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1 hour ago, Il BuonO said:

As long as it’s a one year deal. Better chance they go into a rebuilding mode without actually announcing it, if they’re not constrained by extraneous multi-year deals. The word “rebuilding” seems to be anathema to the owner.

Tillman and Gonzalez on one year deals is underwhelming but safe.

Bartolo Colon would probably do a one year deal.   Or R. A. Dickey.   Or Ubaldo.   lol.  

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16 hours ago, 24fps said:

I remember when signing Leo Mazzone was going usher in a new era of dominant Orioles pitching.

That didn't work out either.  

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Leo was disgusted by our raw materials. And the whimsical attitudes they all had about being in the majors. 

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2 minutes ago, weams said:

Leo was disgusted by our raw materials. And the whimsical attitudes they all had about being in the majors. 

 "The chain of command was always broken, where players got to voice their displeasure to the front office, which took away the power from the manager and nobody really knew who was running what. Basically, what it was, was a bunch of players finding excuses for losing. This is what's going on [in Boston right now]."

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2 hours ago, weams said:

 "The chain of command was always broken, where players got to voice their displeasure to the front office, which took away the power from the manager and nobody really knew who was running what. Basically, what it was, was a bunch of players finding excuses for losing. This is what's going on [in Boston right now]."

Leo

When was that quote?  Is he talking about the 2017 Red Sox?

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