Orioles: Most inept organization in all of profesional sports?

[weams]

1 minute ago, weams said:

I always liked Parker. My kind of pitcher. 

1. Joe Cowley (994.7)
2. Chien-Ming Wang (985.3)
3. Andy Replogle (983.9)
4. Ed Lafitte (983.2)
5. Oral Hildebrand (983.1)
6. Taylor Jungmann (982.3)
7. Cy Falkenberg (982.1)
8. Tex Covington (981.6)
9. Frank Seminara (981.5)
10. Bob Gilks (980.8)

[Frobby]

6 minutes ago, NCRaven said:

And, Parker Bridwell had a very fluky season where he seriously outperformed his peripheral stats.

Parker is not an example of a guy who thrived in our minor league system but then struggled with us in the majors.    He’s a guy who struggled in the minors with us.   So while his case is disturbing, I don’t deem it relevant to Davies.  

[weams]

Just now, Frobby said:

Parker is not an example of a guy who thrived in our minor league system but then struggled with us in the majors.    He’s a guy who struggled in the minors with us.   So while his case is disturbing, I don’t deem it relevant to Davies.  

I watched Davies. A lot.  He seemed like he gave up the long ball but was consistently in the zone with moderate stuff. He did what Tony always said he would and he's good. 

[Ruzious]

1 hour ago, jabba72 said:

I didnt like the Miranda/ Miley or Beckham/Meyers trades. The Erod trade and Davies trades were long enough ago that i didnt think they would burn us long term. Now they look bad.  Add in Bridwell and Arrieta and its a disaster. Also Brealt in Pittsburgh could easily convert into a starter. And Hader the power arm. Do the Orioles just believe they cant develop anyone? 

Actually, if he stays healthy, I think ERod has the best chance of any ex-O to win a Cy Young.  

[weams]

Just now, Ruzious said:

Actually, if he stays healthy, I think ERod has the best chance of any ex-O to win a Cy Young.  

He's not healthy now. 

[weams]

1 minute ago, Ruzious said:

Actually, if he stays healthy, I think ERod has the best chance of any ex-O to win a Cy Young.  

Nothing he has ever done has spoken that to me. 

[weams]

Just now, weams said:

Nothing he has ever done has spoken that to me. 

But I am surely no scout. 

[Frobby]

Just now, weams said:

Nothing he has ever done has spoken that to me. 

I don’t see him as a Cy Young guy.   I can see him as an above average no. 3 starter.   For upside, think Ted Lilly.

[jabba72]

14 minutes ago, weams said:

Nothing he has ever done has spoken that to me. 

Erod has really impressive K9. Its just health is an issue. Seems like he may never pitch a full season.  

[weams]

40 minutes ago, jabba72 said:

Erod has really impressive K9. Its just health is an issue. Seems like he may never pitch a full season.  

He's a young Wade Miley.

[tntoriole]

This same article also listed Bundy as dark horse for the Cy Young.   We shall see.   Both are pretty doggone unlikely in 2018 to sniff a Cy Young top 5.  

[Ruzious]

23 minutes ago, weams said:

He's a young Wade Miley.

Where did that come from?   Miley's only strength has been that he IS good at staying healthy.  I think it's very obvious that ERod is a big-time talent when healthy - and he's just 24 going on 25 years old.  And despite the criticisms has actually pitched well when healthy with a career 8.6 SO/9 ratio and 1.29 WHIP.  There aren't a lot of young lefty starters in the majors that throw as hard and have the same quality of repertoire.  Miley... sucks.  He had a 1.729 WHIP last season.  He and Ubaldo had arguably the worst command in the majors.    

[LookitsPuck]

1 hour ago, NCRaven said:

And, Parker Bridwell had a very fluky season where he seriously outperformed his peripheral stats.

And as shown in the past, guys like Parker Bridwell can have solid careers doing just that. See: Miguel Gonzalez.

[Rene88]

7 hours ago, Finisher said:

Buck's time to the plate obsession and/or whatever else we do that screws up starters, would've likely screwed up Davies.

Still an indefensibly moronic trade.

I have heard this quite a lot. If you had to put a % in terms of blame for our starting pitching development woes...how much does everyone think this is the cause?

[weams]

1 hour ago, Ruzious said:

Where did that come from?   Miley's only strength has been that he IS good at staying healthy.  I think it's very obvious that ERod is a big-time talent when healthy - and he's just 24 going on 25 years old.  And despite the criticisms has actually pitched well when healthy with a career 8.6 SO/9 ratio and 1.29 WHIP.  There aren't a lot of young lefty starters in the majors that throw as hard and have the same quality of repertoire.  Miley... sucks.  He had a 1.729 WHIP last season.  He and Ubaldo had arguably the worst command in the majors.    

Wade Miley was real good at that age. 

2012	25	ARI	NL	16	11	.593	3.33	32	29	0	0	0	0	194.2	193	79	72	14	37	0	144	2	1	6	807	122	3.15	1.182	8.9	0.6	1.7	6.7	3.89	AS,RoY-2
2013	26	ARI	NL	10	10	.500	3.55	33	33	0	0	0	0	202.2	201	88	80	21	66	4	147	4	0	13	847	109	3.98	1.317	8.9	0.9	2.9	6.5	2.23
2014	27	ARI	NL	8	12	.400	4.34	33	33	0	0	0	0	201.1	207	103	97	23	75	3	183	4	0	9	866	86	3.98	1.401	9.3	1.0	3.4	8.2	2.44
2015	28	BOS	AL	11	11	.500	4.46	32	32	0	1	0	0	193.2	201	98	96	17	64	0	147	4	1	10	831	96	3.81	1.368	9.3	0.8	3.0	6.8	2.30