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  1. 1. Which outcome would you prefer?

    • Orioles continue to play sub-.333 baseball and get the no. 1 pick
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    • Orioles play .500 baseball from here and get the 6th overall pick
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I would like to see those who will not be on the team when we are relevant again gone.  I don't want to see the likes of Trumbo, Jones, Davis, Gausman, Schoop, Manny, Givens, Cashner, O'day, Brach, etc play anymore when I know they won't be here in the future.  I want anyone who isn't young and controllable out now, traded or released, it don't matter.  If we are going to suck, I'd rather see names like Dosch, Yaz, Yefri Ramirez, Brugman, or Wilkerson on the roster struggling to contribute in hopes that a couple figure it out and can contribute by the time 2020 comes around.  

Even though the Syd Thrift trades were TERRRRRRRible back in the late 90's early 2000's, I still remember being more excited to see names like Ivanon Coffie and Chris Richards play than continuing to watch Will Clark and Delino Deshields waste our time knowing we wouldn't be any good.  

I'd rather suck with the youth providing some glimmers of hope than suck while waiting for contracts to expire and replace them with other crappy veteran contracts.

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I'd rather have the #1 draft choice.   The O's make some deadline trade and they will be bad.  I don't think this offense will bounce back enough to win at .500.  Stewart, Mullins, Hess and Wynn will be fun to watch but they are not game changers.

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4 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

I would like to see those who will not be on the team when we are relevant again gone.  I don't want to see the likes of Trumbo, Jones, Davis, Gausman, Schoop, Manny, Givens, Cashner, O'day, Brach, etc play anymore when I know they won't be here in the future.  I want anyone who isn't young and controllable out now, traded or released, it don't matter.  If we are going to suck, I'd rather see names like Dosch, Yaz, Yefri Ramirez, Brugman, or Wilkerson on the roster struggling to contribute in hopes that a couple figure it out and can contribute by the time 2020 comes around.  

Even though the Syd Thrift trades were TERRRRRRRible back in the late 90's early 2000's, I still remember being more excited to see names like Ivanon Coffie and Chris Richards play than continuing to watch Will Clark and Delino Deshields waste our time knowing we wouldn't be any good.  

I'd rather suck with the youth providing some glimmers of hope than suck while waiting for contracts to expire and replace them with other crappy veteran contracts.

I hope Schoop, Gausman and Givens stay.  The AAA guys you mention are no more than fillers.   

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3 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I hope Schoop, Gausman and Givens stay.  The AAA guys you mention are no more than fillers.   

I absolutely agree, but for a team (that should be) in transition, I just don't think those three are going to stay, and if they did, I don't think they will be around the next time we are relevant.  

As far as the AAA guys, its really a matter of hope, as its possible one or two of those guys could "figure it out" by being thrown into the fire.  And by "figuring it out" I mean being an average MLB contributor.

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Trade the assets that should be traded this year.  Everybody knows the team is going nowhere good enough to do anything else.  Afterward let the chips fall where they may.  Personally I'm much more interested in the return on trades than the difference between draft pick #1 and #6.  I'd like to see the team consistently playing interesting baseball again no later than 2020.

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Even though playing .500 would be "meaningless" for this year,  it's not like those W's would be happening at random. It would mean our guys are playing a lot better, and not just the ones who get traded.

That could be just as important a development as getting pick 1 vs pick 6. 

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7 minutes ago, weams said:

I have no reason to believe that the Orioles would pick the right guy number one. Six works for me. 

I think a top 5 pick is mandatory for the O's to get a game changer. Picking at #6 is a little too far down the order. 

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1 hour ago, Yardball85 said:

I was hoping .500 ball meant the new, young guys had gelled together and were learning to win some games together.  If .500 ball means the retreads like Trumbo, Davis, etc. are doing well and getting more at bats, then I'll take thesub-.333.

I think we overrate our young guys.  Well, I don't, but people here do.  Therefore, I don't think they could play .500 ball.  

 

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1 hour ago, Yardball85 said:

I was hoping .500 ball meant the new, young guys had gelled together and were learning to win some games together.  If .500 ball means the retreads like Trumbo, Davis, etc. are doing well and getting more at bats, then I'll take thesub-.333.

Since Davis will be here the next 4 1/2 years I am not sure why you wouldn't be happy that he is doing well.  If Mancini isn't doing well no big deal we release him . 

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Would a 500 record for the rest of the year make the FO think that this could be a competitive team next year thus limiting the deals they consummate before the deadlines (Machado and Britton and any other pending FA excluded)?

I'd rather have the "No Doubt About It" scenario of the dumpster fire

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48 minutes ago, weams said:

I have no reason to believe that the Orioles would pick the right guy number one. Six works for me. 

Reading the draft thread and seeing a couple quick takes comparing Rodriguez to Hobgood (signability?), I'd have to agree.  Is there a Verlander in next year's draft? When the 2003 Tigers tanked, they got Verlander in the 2004 draft.  Houston tanked 3 years in a row, 2011-13, winning 56, 55, and 51 games those seasons.  They also slashed payroll from 20th to 28th to 30th.  In the draft, that got them Carlos Correa, Mark Appel, and Brady Aiken.  If I were to go full pessimist, I'd argue it wouldn't matter if they got the next ManNY because then history would repeat itself in a few years down the road under Brady and the Angelos boys.   There is some schadenfreude in seeing how low a team could go, but when it's the home team, not so much.

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