O’s claim IF Hanser Alberto from Yankees; DFA Susac

[interloper]

14 minutes ago, bobmc said:

Yessir - he's our roly poly bouncing bundle of joy.  The world need more him - irrespective of his negative WAR!

It's a positive 0.9 according to BBref right now!

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, Babypowder said:

It's difficult to hit .318 and still be a below league average offensive player, but Hanser is pulling it off so far.

Highest batting average with OPS+ < 100 and 300+ PAs:

                                                                                                                                            
Rk                Player   BA OPS+  PA Year Age  Tm Lg   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB  SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS  OBP  SLG  OPS        Pos
1          Pinky Whitney .342   98 660 1930  25 PHI NL 149 606  87 207 41  5  8 117     40  41   1        15     3 .383 .465 .849       *5/H
2            Don Mueller .333   96 502 1953  26 NYG NL 131 480  56 160 12  2  6  60 19   1  13   1     2   7  2  0 .360 .404 .764       *97H
3           Rip Radcliff .330   99 545 1938  32 CHW AL 129 503  64 166 23  6  5  81     36  17   1         5  5  7 .376 .429 .805      *73/H
4           Tommy Tucker .330   92 572 1894  30 BSN NL 123 500 112 165 24  6  3 100     53  21  17         2    18 .412 .420 .832       *3/8
5          Norris Hopper .329   94 335 2007  28 CIN NL 121 307  51 101 14  2  0  14 20   1  33   1  6  1   8 14  6 .371 .388 .758       8H79
6            Walt Wilmot .329   97 655 1894  30 CHC NL 135 604 136 199 45 12  5 130     36  27   1        14    76 .368 .469 .837         *7
7            Juan Pierre .327   89 683 2001  23 COL NL 156 617 108 202 26 11  2  55 41   1  29  10 14  1   6 46 17 .378 .415 .793       *8/H
8           Jeff Cirillo .326   99 684 2000  30 COL NL 157 598 111 195 53  2 11 115 67   4  72   6  1 12  19  3  4 .392 .477 .869       *5/H
9          George Sisler .326   98 686 1929  36 BSN NL 154 629  67 205 40  8  2  79     33  17   4        20     6 .363 .424 .788         *3
10            Bill Lange .325   99 510 1894  23 CHC NL 113 449  86 146 17  9  6  91     56  18   1         4    66 .401 .443 .844    *8/6975
11         Aaron Ledesma .324   92 315 1998  27 TBD AL  95 299  30  97 16  3  0  29  9   1  51   1  4  2   8  9  7 .344 .398 .742   *64H/5D3
12        Eric Young Sr. .324   98 643 1996  29 COL NL 141 568 113 184 23  4  8  74 47   1  31  21  2  5   9 53 19 .393 .421 .814       *4/H
13         Monk Sherlock .324   83 335 1930  25 PHI NL  92 299  51  97 18  2  0  38     27  28   0         9     0 .380 .398 .778     *3H/48
14       Fresco Thompson .324   98 717 1929  27 PHI NL 148 623 115 202 41  3  4  53     75  34   1        16    16 .398 .419 .817         *4
15         Hank Severeid .324   98 531 1921  30 SLB AL 143 472  66 153 23  7  2  78     42   9   0        17  7  2 .379 .415 .795        *2H
16          Alex Sanchez .322   93 352 2004  27 DET AL  79 332  41 107  9  3  2  26  7   0  50   0 12  1   5 19 13 .335 .386 .721      *8/HD
17         Willy Taveras .320   89 408 2007  25 COL NL  97 372  64 119 13  2  2  24 21   0  55   7  7  1   1 33  9 .367 .382 .748      *8/HD
18            Homer Bush .320   97 523 1999  26 TOR AL 128 485  69 155 26  4  5  55 21   0  82   6  8  3   9 32  8 .353 .421 .774      *46/H
19            Bobby Lowe .320   99 336 1896  30 BSN NL  73 306  59  98 11  4  2  48     20  12   4         6    15 .370 .402 .772         *4
20           Lew Fonseca .319   97 505 1925  26 PHI NL 126 467  78 149 30  5  7  60     21  42   3        15  6  2 .352 .450 .802      *43/H
21        Jimmy Johnston .319   97 617 1922  32 BRO NL 138 567 110 181 20  7  4  49     38  17   2        10 18  9 .364 .400 .764        465
22               Al Todd .318   99 314 1934  32 PHI NL  91 302  33  96 22  2  4  41     10  39   2     0   9     3 .344 .444 .788        *2H
23         Jimmie Wilson .318   89 402 1930  29 STL NL 107 362  54 115 25  7  1  58     28  17   1        12     8 .368 .434 .802       *2/H
24           Fred Tenney .318   95 646 1897  25 BSN NL 132 566 125 180 24  3  1  85     49  18   4        27    34 .376 .376 .753       *3/9
25          Felix Fermin .317   85 411 1994  30 SEA AL 101 379  52 120 21  0  1  35 11   0  22   4 12  5   9  4  4 .338 .380 .718        *64

A lot of 1930, 1894, and pre-humidor Coors players.

[OFFNY]

On 6/26/2019 at 2:04 AM, sportsfan8703 said:

 

Alberto is T-3rd in the AL in BA, at .318. 

 

http://m.mlb.com/stats/?stat_type=hitting&season=2019&team_option=AL&game_type=R&sort_column=avg&player_pool=QUALIFIER

 

He finally has enough AB's to qualify ........ the guy has been a machine. He’s been a bright spot on an awful team. 

 

o

 

Keep Swingin’: Hanser Alberto Now Among the AL’s Top-10 Hitters

(By Steve Melewski)

https://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2019/06/keep-swingin-hanser-alberto-now-among-the-al-top-10-hitters.html

 

o

[ScGO's]

He reminds me of a poor man's Melvin Mora.

[Frobby]

9 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

He reminds me of a poor man's Melvin Mora.

To me he’s more like a poor man’s Miguel Tejada.    Mora was a reasonably patient hitter.    Alberto is just as impatient as Tejada, and about as adept at making contact, he just lacks the power.    And he has a somewhat similarly stocky build, though Tejada had more muscle on his frame.    

(Edit: looking at Tejada’s numbers, he wasn’t quite as impatient as I’d remembered, though still pretty impatient.   He had a .049 spread between BA and OBP as an Oriole, compared to Alberto’s .020.    Mora was .075.)

[bobmc]

On 6/26/2019 at 9:33 AM, DrungoHazewood said:

Highest batting average with OPS+ < 100 and 300+ PAs:

 

                                                                                                                                            
Rk                Player   BA OPS+  PA Year Age  Tm Lg   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB  SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS  OBP  SLG  OPS        Pos
1          Pinky Whitney .342   98 660 1930  25 PHI NL 149 606  87 207 41  5  8 117     40  41   1        15     3 .383 .465 .849       *5/H
2            Don Mueller .333   96 502 1953  26 NYG NL 131 480  56 160 12  2  6  60 19   1  13   1     2   7  2  0 .360 .404 .764       *97H
3           Rip Radcliff .330   99 545 1938  32 CHW AL 129 503  64 166 23  6  5  81     36  17   1         5  5  7 .376 .429 .805      *73/H
4           Tommy Tucker .330   92 572 1894  30 BSN NL 123 500 112 165 24  6  3 100     53  21  17         2    18 .412 .420 .832       *3/8
5          Norris Hopper .329   94 335 2007  28 CIN NL 121 307  51 101 14  2  0  14 20   1  33   1  6  1   8 14  6 .371 .388 .758       8H79
6            Walt Wilmot .329   97 655 1894  30 CHC NL 135 604 136 199 45 12  5 130     36  27   1        14    76 .368 .469 .837         *7
7            Juan Pierre .327   89 683 2001  23 COL NL 156 617 108 202 26 11  2  55 41   1  29  10 14  1   6 46 17 .378 .415 .793       *8/H
8           Jeff Cirillo .326   99 684 2000  30 COL NL 157 598 111 195 53  2 11 115 67   4  72   6  1 12  19  3  4 .392 .477 .869       *5/H
9          George Sisler .326   98 686 1929  36 BSN NL 154 629  67 205 40  8  2  79     33  17   4        20     6 .363 .424 .788         *3
10            Bill Lange .325   99 510 1894  23 CHC NL 113 449  86 146 17  9  6  91     56  18   1         4    66 .401 .443 .844    *8/6975
11         Aaron Ledesma .324   92 315 1998  27 TBD AL  95 299  30  97 16  3  0  29  9   1  51   1  4  2   8  9  7 .344 .398 .742   *64H/5D3
12        Eric Young Sr. .324   98 643 1996  29 COL NL 141 568 113 184 23  4  8  74 47   1  31  21  2  5   9 53 19 .393 .421 .814       *4/H
13         Monk Sherlock .324   83 335 1930  25 PHI NL  92 299  51  97 18  2  0  38     27  28   0         9     0 .380 .398 .778     *3H/48
14       Fresco Thompson .324   98 717 1929  27 PHI NL 148 623 115 202 41  3  4  53     75  34   1        16    16 .398 .419 .817         *4
15         Hank Severeid .324   98 531 1921  30 SLB AL 143 472  66 153 23  7  2  78     42   9   0        17  7  2 .379 .415 .795        *2H
16          Alex Sanchez .322   93 352 2004  27 DET AL  79 332  41 107  9  3  2  26  7   0  50   0 12  1   5 19 13 .335 .386 .721      *8/HD
17         Willy Taveras .320   89 408 2007  25 COL NL  97 372  64 119 13  2  2  24 21   0  55   7  7  1   1 33  9 .367 .382 .748      *8/HD
18            Homer Bush .320   97 523 1999  26 TOR AL 128 485  69 155 26  4  5  55 21   0  82   6  8  3   9 32  8 .353 .421 .774      *46/H
19            Bobby Lowe .320   99 336 1896  30 BSN NL  73 306  59  98 11  4  2  48     20  12   4         6    15 .370 .402 .772         *4
20           Lew Fonseca .319   97 505 1925  26 PHI NL 126 467  78 149 30  5  7  60     21  42   3        15  6  2 .352 .450 .802      *43/H
21        Jimmy Johnston .319   97 617 1922  32 BRO NL 138 567 110 181 20  7  4  49     38  17   2        10 18  9 .364 .400 .764        465
22               Al Todd .318   99 314 1934  32 PHI NL  91 302  33  96 22  2  4  41     10  39   2     0   9     3 .344 .444 .788        *2H
23         Jimmie Wilson .318   89 402 1930  29 STL NL 107 362  54 115 25  7  1  58     28  17   1        12     8 .368 .434 .802       *2/H
24           Fred Tenney .318   95 646 1897  25 BSN NL 132 566 125 180 24  3  1  85     49  18   4        27    34 .376 .376 .753       *3/9
25          Felix Fermin .317   85 411 1994  30 SEA AL 101 379  52 120 21  0  1  35 11   0  22   4 12  5   9  4  4 .338 .380 .718        *64

 

A lot of 1930, 1894, and pre-humidor Coors players.

George Sisler at #9 when with BOS - @OFFNY 's favorite franchise player?  Not one BAL player and only one SLB!  Don Mueller at #2 was one of my NYG follows in '53.

[DrungoHazewood]

26 minutes ago, bobmc said:

George Sisler at #9 when with BOS - @OFFNY 's favorite franchise player?  Not one BAL player and only one SLB!  Don Mueller at #2 was one of my NYG follows in '53.

No Orioles, but Aaron Ledesma's prior year he hit .352 with the O's, good for a 148 OPS+.  That sad, sad expansion draft where they lost not only Ledesma, but also Dave Dellucci.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

3 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

No Orioles, but Aaron Ledesma's prior year he hit .352 with the O's, good for a 148 OPS+.  That sad, sad expansion draft where they lost not only Ledesma, but also Dave Dellucci.

Dellucci had a nice modest career. Was always disappointed that the Orioles lost him in the expansion draft. Based on what happened to the Orioles after 1997 the feeling is probably not mutual. 

[DrungoHazewood]

8 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Dellucci had a nice modest career. Was always disappointed that the Orioles lost him in the expansion draft. Based on what happened to the Orioles after 1997 the feeling is probably not mutual. 

Dellucci was a BaySox one of the years I had a 15-game plan with several of my friends.  We saw him play a lot, and well..327/.421/.547 good for a .995 OPS in 1997. We were all very disappointed when he was taken.  Looking at bb-ref for those '97 BaySox brings back good memories.  The epic Willis Otanez.  David Lamb.  Johnny Isom, Howie, Olympian Augie Ojeda, Mike Berry, Chris Kirgan, Wady Almonte, Jesse Garcia. Alvie Shepard winning some kind of hog wrestling contest before a game.  Chris Fussell.  Sir Sidney sitting directly in front of us charting pitches.

Also, there was a game where Dellucci's family showed up and sat in our section, and to this day I remember how attractive his sister was... 

[BohKnowsBmore]

On 6/26/2019 at 9:02 AM, interloper said:

It's a positive 0.9 according to BBref right now!

0.8 fWAR

[Ohfan67]

1 hour ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Dellucci was a BaySox one of the years I had a 15-game plan with several of my friends.  We saw him play a lot, and well..327/.421/.547 good for a .995 OPS in 1997. We were all very disappointed when he was taken.  Looking at bb-ref for those '97 BaySox brings back good memories.  The epic Willis Otanez.  David Lamb.  Johnny Isom, Howie, Olympian Augie Ojeda, Mike Berry, Chris Kirgan, Wady Almonte, Jesse Garcia. Alvie Shepard winning some kind of hog wrestling contest before a game.  Chris Fussell.  Sir Sidney sitting directly in front of us charting pitches.

Also, there was a game where Dellucci's family showed up and sat in our section, and to this day I remember how attractive his sister was... 

I always liked Delluci...undergrad degrees from the same university. I think he works for the SEC network these days. BTW, his wife is gorgeous! I think she is still a Price is Right model. 

 

I really enjoyed those Baysox teams of the that "era". I was a grad student at Maryland in '94 and went to a lot of games on campus when they played there while the Bowie stadium was being constructed. Really fun to sit directly behind the pitchers and chit chat. 

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, Ohfan67 said:

I always liked Delluci...undergrad degrees from the same university. I think he works for the SEC network these days. BTW, his wife is gorgeous! I think she is still a Price is Right model. 

 

I really enjoyed those Baysox teams of the that "era". I was a grad student at Maryland in '94 and went to a lot of games on campus when they played there while the Bowie stadium was being constructed. Really fun to sit directly behind the pitchers and chit chat. 

I don't remember how we determined that the attractive woman with Dellucci's family was his sister.  It could have been his wife.

When the BaySox played their first year at Memorial Stadium I went to at least one game.  They were very short-staffed and asked for fans to help roll out the tarp when it started to rain, and I jumped at the chance to run around on the same field as Cal and Brooks.

[OFFNY]

o

 

(vs. NATIONALS, 7/16)

 

NUMBER 5

 

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o

[sportsfan8703]

On 6/27/2019 at 5:52 PM, Frobby said:

To me he’s more like a poor man’s Miguel Tejada.    Mora was a reasonably patient hitter.    Alberto is just as impatient as Tejada, and about as adept at making contact, he just lacks the power.    And he has a somewhat similarly stocky build, though Tejada had more muscle on his frame.    

(Edit: looking at Tejada’s numbers, he wasn’t quite as impatient as I’d remembered, though still pretty impatient.   He had a .049 spread between BA and OBP as an Oriole, compared to Alberto’s .020.    Mora was .075.)

So you’re saying Alberto is Deivi Cruz?  I always thought Cruz was the poor man’s Miggy(flashback to the dark years).

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cruzde01.shtml

[DrungoHazewood]

2 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

So you’re saying Alberto is Deivi Cruz?  I always thought Cruz was the poor man’s Miggy(flashback to the dark years).

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cruzde01.shtml

That is a pretty good comp.  Deivi was a good fielder early in his career, and sometimes hit .300, but he had little power and his career high in walks was 22.

Some of you may remember ancient history when I used to write articles for the Hangout.  My first one in late 2002 was entitled "Deivi Cruz.  Was he really the best of a mediocre bunch?"  I was pretty critical of the Orioles for spending exorbitant amounts of money on Cruz ($1.2M) instead of going with a younger, cheaper player like Mike Moriarty, Brian Roberts (at SS), David Lamb, Mendy Lopez... In retrospect I don't even know if I came to the right conclusion.  But in '03 Cruz and Tony Batista combined to make 947 outs, which couldn't have been helpful to anyone.