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13 minutes ago, atomic said:

It was a cheap shot on his first wife as well.

It was intended as a wisecrack.    The mores of 1976 weren’t the same as today.    Believe me, Weaver said a lot worse.    

As to Cuellar, I understand Weaver made the remark after Cuellar complained about not getting enough starts in 1976, a year in which he went 4-13 with a 4.96 ERA (66 ERA+).    To me it was just Weaver’s colorful way of saying that he felt he’d given Cuellar plenty of chances that year.    Not a comment on Cuellar’s overall performance during his career.    And my point in quoting Weaver was that Cuellar got a lot more chances that year than a pitcher without his track record would have gotten.     Even Earl Weaver believed that a guy who had earned it over a long period of time deserved some rope.   Buck was far from alone in that regard.   

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7 hours ago, Frobby said:

Earl Weaver: “I gave Mike [Cuellar] more chances than I gave my first wife.”    

Ex-wife jokes (and wife jokes) were popular back then. Earl said it to respond to Cuellar in a way that he knew would draw a laugh from the press and fans. It actually took the edge off the issue and nobody asked him for an explanation.

Ex-wife jokes stopped being popular when Woody Allen's first wife won a lawsuit against him for jokes he made about "my ex-wife" in his standup routine. 

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40 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

Ex-wife jokes (and wife jokes) were popular back then. Earl said it to respond to Cuellar in a way that he knew would draw a laugh from the press and fans. It actually took the edge off the issue and nobody asked him for an explanation.

Ex-wife jokes stopped being popular when Woody Allen's first wife won a lawsuit against him for jokes he made about "my ex-wife" in his standup routine. 

Interesting, I’d never heard about that lawsuit.    It looks like he settled it, rather than her actually winning it.    

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1 hour ago, weams said:

Davis went 0-4 lowering his seam average to .170,

Matching last year's .168 is not out of the question.  But his OPS is 23 points higher last year and he won't get enough playing time to drop it that much.

So it looks like we can officially say the 2019 Davis is an improvement on the 2018 Davis. 

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6 minutes ago, bobmc said:

Was last night his final starting appearance at OPACY?  Stay tuned.  ?

I hope he is in the lineup Sunday.  The last home game.  Because that might be an indication they are letting the fans "say goodbye" to him, and give me a hope that maybe they intend to cut him loose sometime before February.

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9 minutes ago, SteveA said:

I hope he is in the lineup Sunday.  The last home game.  Because that might be an indication they are letting the fans "say goodbye" to him, and give me a hope that maybe they intend to cut him loose sometime before February.

If some pitches are grooved for him then we'll really know.

The End of an Errah!

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Matching last year's .168 is not out of the question.  But his OPS is 23 points higher last year and he won't get enough playing time to drop it that much.

So it looks like we can officially say the 2019 Davis is an improvement on the 2018 Davis. 

I’d say his OPS is a little higher because they sheltered him more.   For example, only 19% of his plate appearances have come vs. LHP, compared to 28% last year.    Saying that, his splits vs. RHP/LHP are way more extreme this year than last year.

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By the way, I was playing softball last weekend and in my final at bat the other team moved one of their infielders into the outfield, leaving only only guy on the LH side.     The first pitch I saw, I just hit a ground ball where the 3B usually would be for a single.     As I rounded first, I said to the first baseman, who I know is an Orioles fan, “who do you guys think I am, Chris Davis?”

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31 minutes ago, SteveA said:

I hope he is in the lineup Sunday.  The last home game.  Because that might be an indication they are letting the fans "say goodbye" to him, and give me a hope that maybe they intend to cut him loose sometime before February.

If they remove him early on Sunday to applause, you might have a newsflash!  ?

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