BRob is on the HOF Ballot

[Frobby]

11 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I was lucky that my Dad bought a program and wrote down the lineups and made a note that the game had the highest regular season Oriole attendance ever up to that date.  So thanks to bb-ref it was pretty easy to track down.

Start time: 7:41 pm

Game time: 3:20

You were up well past your bedtime, young man!

[Frobby]

8 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

My first game was a senators game, I remember the players, just not the game itself, and back then they used to give out real Louisville sluggers to kids attending games.  I loved mine, did mine my handle up with the rough black electrical tape of that era, and the bigger i got, the better I was able to use that awesome bat. Damn, I wish my old man hadnt toss that SOB when I left home.

 

Yeah, I had a few of those Bat Day bats.    Can you imagine any team doing that today?

I remember going to Seat Cushion Day one time.   The game got way out of hand and it was a very sloppy game.   Some guy flung his seat cushion onto the field and then there was a barrage of seat cushions flying around.    Wouldn’t want to see something similar on Bat Day.   

[DrungoHazewood]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Start time: 7:41 pm

Game time: 3:20

You were up well past your bedtime, young man!

And it was a bus trip with Dad's work, so I'm sure we didn't get home until between 1 and 2am. I was eight, so yea, well past my bedtime.  I think somewhere I still have the felt pennant he bought me that night.  And I definitely have the program.  We sat in the yellow mezzanine seats on the third base side.

[DrungoHazewood]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I had a few of those Bat Day bats.    Can you imagine any team doing that today?

I remember going to Seat Cushion Day one time.   The game got way out of hand and it was a very sloppy game.   Some guy flung his seat cushion onto the field and then there was a barrage of seat cushions flying around.    Wouldn’t want to see something similar on Bat Day.   

Didn't the Mets have baseball day that they had to forfeit, or almost forfeit, sometime in the last 10, maybe 15 years?  Balls thrown everywhere. Last time that will happen.

(I might be thinking of the Dodgers, and it was 1995).

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I had a few of those Bat Day bats.    Can you imagine any team doing that today?

I remember going to Seat Cushion Day one time.   The game got way out of hand and it was a very sloppy game.   Some guy flung his seat cushion onto the field and then there was a barrage of seat cushions flying around.    Wouldn’t want to see something similar on Bat Day.   

Edit: apparently, “some guy” was John Lowenstein.   
 

A few years ago, in the late innings of a lopsided loss against the Oakland A's on "seat cushion night" at Memorial Stadium, Lowenstein picked up his own cushion and sailed it onto the field. Hundreds more followed from the stands and play had to be halted to pick them all up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1992/07/03/proctor-lowenstein-serve-up-a-lighter-fare/006816b4-b347-4564-8bb8-abb31461a9c2/

[wildbillhiccup]

6 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

I dislike Jeter the person, Jeter being a pinstriper.

While he wasnt much with the glove, its hard to deny his ability with the bat.

For the life of me, I dont get the clowns that voted him so many GG. His career dWAR was like -8.3.

Does he beyond in the HOF as a first ballot yes, I hate to see him get unanimous, when so many before him, deserved and didnt.

Somebody said once, who cares if I got in by unanimous, I am in, and thats the bottom line.

 

Is it though? I mean, the batting average and runs scored are nice, but the HRs and RBIs are pretty pedestrian in the era of the hitting shortstops. Definitely not a 1st ballet selection if you take away the celebrity / Yankee lore IMO. 

 

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
1995	21	NYY	AL	15	51	48	5	12	4	1	0	7	0	0	3	11	.250	.294	.375	.669	74	18	0	0	0	0	0	6
1996	22	NYY	AL	157	654	582	104	183	25	6	10	78	14	7	48	102	.314	.370	.430	.800	101	250	13	9	6	9	1	*6	RoY-1
1997	23	NYY	AL	159	748	654	116	190	31	7	10	70	23	12	74	125	.291	.370	.405	.775	103	265	14	10	8	2	0	*6	MVP-24
1998	24	NYY	AL	149	694	626	127	203	25	8	19	84	30	6	57	119	.324	.384	.481	.864	127	301	13	5	3	3	1	*6	AS,MVP-3
1999	25	NYY	AL	158	739	627	134	219	37	9	24	102	19	8	91	116	.349	.438	.552	.989	153	346	12	12	3	6	5	*6	AS,MVP-6
2000	26	NYY	AL	148	679	593	119	201	31	4	15	73	22	4	68	99	.339	.416	.481	.896	128	285	14	12	3	3	4	*6	AS,MVP-10
2001	27	NYY	AL	150	686	614	110	191	35	3	21	74	27	3	56	99	.311	.377	.480	.858	124	295	13	10	5	1	3	*6	AS,MVP-10
2002	28	NYY	AL	157	730	644	124	191	26	0	18	75	32	3	73	114	.297	.373	.421	.794	111	271	14	7	3	3	2	*6/D	AS
2003	29	NYY	AL	119	542	482	87	156	25	3	10	52	11	5	43	88	.324	.393	.450	.844	125	217	10	13	3	1	2	*6	MVP-21
2004	30	NYY	AL	154	721	643	111	188	44	1	23	78	23	4	46	99	.292	.352	.471	.823	114	303	19	14	16	2	1	*6	AS,MVP-13,GG
2005	31	NYY	AL	159	752	654	122	202	25	5	19	70	14	5	77	117	.309	.389	.450	.839	125	294	15	11	7	3	3	*6/D	MVP-10,GG
2006	32	NYY	AL	154	715	623	118	214	39	3	14	97	34	5	69	102	.343	.417	.483	.900	132	301	13	12	7	4	4	*6/D	AS,MVP-2,GG,SS
2007	33	NYY	AL	156	714	639	102	206	39	4	12	73	15	8	56	100	.322	.388	.452	.840	121	289	21	14	3	2	3	*6	AS,MVP-11,SS
2008	34	NYY	AL	150	668	596	88	179	25	3	11	69	11	5	52	85	.300	.363	.408	.771	102	243	24	9	7	4	0	*6/D	AS,SS
2009	35	NYY	AL	153	716	634	107	212	27	1	18	66	30	5	72	90	.334	.406	.465	.871	125	295	18	5	4	1	4	*6/D	AS,MVP-3,GG,SS
2010	36	NYY	AL	157	739	663	111	179	30	3	10	67	18	5	63	106	.270	.340	.370	.710	90	245	22	9	1	3	4	*6/D	AS,GG
2011	37	NYY	AL	131	607	546	84	162	24	4	6	61	16	6	46	81	.297	.355	.388	.743	100	212	10	6	4	5	0	*6D	AS
2012	38	NYY	AL	159	740	683	99	216	32	0	15	58	9	4	45	90	.316	.362	.429	.791	114	293	24	5	6	1	1	*6D	AS,MVP-7,SS
2013	39	NYY	AL	17	73	63	8	12	1	0	1	7	0	0	8	10	.190	.288	.254	.542	52	16	3	1	0	1	1	6/D
2014	40	NYY	AL	145	634	581	47	149	19	1	4	50	10	2	35	87	.256	.304	.313	.617	76	182	15	6	8	4	0	*

[Number5]

I don't know if it was my first game or not, but I remember my Dad taking me to an O's game against Detroit and they had a pitcher named Ron Nischwitz.  This man sitting behind us yelled out real loud "Hey Nitwit!" when he was announced.  Being 8 years old, that sent me into a giggling fit that lasted a couple of innings.

[atomic]

I don’t like Jeter and think he is overrated but you can vote for 10 players so I see no reason he isn’t a unanimous choice.  I would like to see Bonds and Clemens get in this year.  
 

As for BRob I suspect this will be the only year he is on the ballot. 

[BRobinsonfan]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

I have no memory at all of the first baseball game I ever attended.   I’m sure it involved the Senators.   Who they played and what year it was, I have no idea.    My dad had a friend who worked for a U.S. Senator, and the “real” Senators had free passes to the baseball Senators games.    Once in a blue moon we’d get those tickets.   
 

Mine first baseball game was in 1966 in Memorial Stadium.  I saw Jim Palmer pitch against (I believe) the Chicago White Sox.  My Dad bought me a pennant with a team photo on it and I was an Orioles fan for life. Boog Powell, Frank Robinson, Andy Etchebarren, and of course, Brooks Robinson were on that team.  

[Frobby]

22 minutes ago, atomic said:

As for BRob I suspect this will be the only year he is on the ballot. 

Oh, almost certainly.    I’d be somewhat surprised if he got any votes.    Some players who received no votes last year included Derek Lowe (34.4 rWAR), Freddie Garcia (34.2) and Kevin Youkilis (32.6).    BRob is right in their neighborhood (30.4).    Some others who didn’t make the 5% threshold to stay on the ballot included Lance Berkman (52.1), Roy Oswalt (50.1), Miguel Tejada (47.3) and Placido Polanco (41.5).    

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

7 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

 

For the life of me, I dont get the clowns that voted him so many GG. His career dWAR was like -8.3.

 

The same reason Raffy Palmeiro won a gold glove the year he was a DH and played a handful of games at 1B. Good hitters for their position often get credit for being a good fielder. Jeter also had some highlight reel plays like the throw to homeplate against the A's in the playoffs that gave him a reputation for being a good fielder when it wasn't deserved. 

And advanced fielding metrics didn't become widely excepted until later in Jeter's career. The same reason why Cal didn't get GG's earlier in his career when he deserved to.  

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

I don’t like Jeter and think he is overrated but you can vote for 10 players so I see no reason he isn’t a unanimous choice.  I would like to see Bonds and Clemens get in this year.  
 

As for BRob I suspect this will be the only year he is on the ballot. 

Agreed, Jeter is a no brainer first ballot HOF even though he should have spent his career playing another position. 

[HowAboutThat]

I thought everyone was on the ballot after five years of retirement?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Philip said:

I thought everyone was on the ballot after five years of retirement?

That would make for a huge ballot.

[HowAboutThat]

2 hours ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I had a few of those Bat Day bats.    Can you imagine any team doing that today?

I remember going to Seat Cushion Day one time.   The game got way out of hand and it was a very sloppy game.   Some guy flung his seat cushion onto the field and then there was a barrage of seat cushions flying around.    Wouldn’t want to see something similar on Bat Day.   

Google ten-cent beer night… That was quite a game.