MLB suspended, Opening Day delayed indefinitely UPDATED

[Chuck A]

Now the latest is a proposed 100 game season starting July 1 and ending October 15th.  The silver lining?  O's escape another 100 loss season! 

[atomic]

5 minutes ago, Chuck A said:

Now the latest is a proposed 100 game season starting July 1 and ending October 15th.  The silver lining?  O's escape another 100 loss season! 

Zero chance it starts on July 1st.  California and Georgia have cancelled schools for the year. That means schools which would run through middle of June are closed.  Baseball is out of touch with reality.  I don’t know why they keep stating dates.  Seems like they are out of touch with the seriousness of the situation.  They can survive without a year of revenue.

[jarman86]

1 hour ago, osfan83 said:

It's turning out that ventilators are very little help. Latest numbers show 50-80% of the people put on ventilators don't survive. South Korea is the model on how to handle this. 

50-80% is quite a wide array statistically which means its still not clear.  if its closer to 80% you are more correct, if its 50%, we are choosing to kill people being short because 1/2 people on ventilators survive.

[jarman86]

17 minutes ago, atomic said:

Zero chance it starts on July 1st.  California and Georgia have cancelled schools for the year. That means schools which would run through middle of June are closed.  Baseball is out of touch with reality.  I don’t know why they keep stating dates.  Seems like they are out of touch with the seriousness of the situation.  They can survive without a year of revenue.

Not sure what schools have to do with baseball.  Schools have closed because it is hard to get the schoolyear finished before the start of the next one.  Also that is public, not privately owned like MLB.  I think baseball could do July or earlier if necessary.  Seems MLB doesn't want to start unless fans can attend.  NBA and NHL, I think were looking at the CBA(Chinese basketball league) for starting up.  Sending players to neutral sites, keeping players and coaches under quarantine, and playing in empty stadiums.  I think baseball could do that in Arizona or Florida or both.  I kind of agree with Mark Cuban that games would help people in the crisis, but would need to be done safely.  WWE seems to be handling it well so far.  UFC is also going to try with 249 and their last Fight Night in Brazil. 

[Going Underground]

Definitely more then the flu. The damage to the lungs is alarming. Seems to act  like more then just a virus in the 5% who get it real bad. 

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/01/825499422/ventilators-can-save-lives-of-some-covid-19-patients-but-theyre-no-panacea

 

From my friend in his 50's. He is not even in the hospital but at home. 

Im willing to look into sharing my immunity (once I survive).

I im 9 days into exposure.

Thank god lungs are clear. Breathing is strong. Dealing with 20% normal energy. No appetite. Lost 9 pounds so far. 

Fever ranging from 101 - 103.

Chills. Diarrhea. 

Fun. Fun. Fun.

 

[atomic]

46 minutes ago, jarman86 said:

Not sure what schools have to do with baseball.  Schools have closed because it is hard to get the schoolyear finished before the start of the next one.  Also that is public, not privately owned like MLB.  I think baseball could do July or earlier if necessary.  Seems MLB doesn't want to start unless fans can attend.  NBA and NHL, I think were looking at the CBA(Chinese basketball league) for starting up.  Sending players to neutral sites, keeping players and coaches under quarantine, and playing in empty stadiums.  I think baseball could do that in Arizona or Florida or both.  I kind of agree with Mark Cuban that games would help people in the crisis, but would need to be done safely.  WWE seems to be handling it well so far.  UFC is also going to try with 249 and their last Fight Night in Brazil. 

I don't think you understand.  The government won't allow them to play.  School is way more important than baseball.  They could play in the Domincan Republic or Mexico.   But I doubt the players would want to go to third world countries.   

[atomic]

Death rates in Europe in Spain, Italy and France are higher than reported.  They are not counting people who die at home or in nursing homes.  

[atomic]

38 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Definitely more then the flu. The damage to the lungs is alarming. Seems to act  like more then just a virus in the 5% who get it real bad. 

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/01/825499422/ventilators-can-save-lives-of-some-covid-19-patients-but-theyre-no-panacea

 

From my friend in his 50's. He is not even in the hospital but at home. 

Im willing to look into sharing my immunity (once I survive).

I im 9 days into exposure.

Thank god lungs are clear. Breathing is strong. Dealing with 20% normal energy. No appetite. Lost 9 pounds so far. 

Fever ranging from 101 - 103.

Chills. Diarrhea. 

Fun. Fun. Fun.

 

I hope your friend gets better.  Sound pretty bad.  

[orioles119]

2 hours ago, atomic said:

Zero chance it starts on July 1st.  California and Georgia have cancelled schools for the year. That means schools which would run through middle of June are closed.  Baseball is out of touch with reality.  I don’t know why they keep stating dates.  Seems like they are out of touch with the seriousness of the situation.  They can survive without a year of revenue.

There's the atomic we've come to know... I was wondering if someone else was posting for you recently.

[atomic]

13 minutes ago, orioles119 said:

There's the atomic we've come to know... I was wondering if someone else was posting for you recently.

I don't think we can shutdown for 18 months.  I don't think baseball without fans is important to the economy.  I just see spectator sports as the very last thing that comes back.  

[survivedc]

8 minutes ago, atomic said:

I don't think we can shutdown for 18 months.  I don't think baseball without fans is important to the economy.  I just see spectator sports as the very last thing that comes back.  

Baseball without fans is important to the nation’s psyche.

[Going Underground]

7 minutes ago, atomic said:

I don't think we can shutdown for 18 months.  I don't think baseball without fans is important to the economy.  I just see spectator sports as the very last thing that comes back.  

Too many variables right now. Try to make it into May and see where we are.Virus does not care about data points. Could die down and come back in the fall or winter.Maybe we have a treatment that works in two months,at least on most people.Honestly more worried about small businesses and workers then baseball and rich owners.

 

Germany may try something we are looking at.But we really need to test and get back results in less then a week Send the people who had the virus and send them back into the workforce first since they are immune. Slowly get the economy going over time.

[DrungoHazewood]

3 hours ago, Going Underground said:

A century ago, Baltimore had baseball fever.

In 1920, the Orioles won 110 games — including the final 25 — to capture the International League pennant. The team’s success buoyed the spirits of a city struggling through the third and final year of the flu pandemic that killed 675,000 Americans.

 

Baseball, too, was hit by the flu. At least eight pro players succumbed, as did an umpire and several sportswriters. Even slugger Babe Ruth caught it once, or maybe twice. Not coincidentally, 1920 saw baseball ban the spitball pitch for all but a handful of veteran hurlers who’d always thrown it.

The disease cut a swath through Baltimore, killing 5,400 in 1918 alone, but somehow spared its Class AA ballclub.

 

Lamenting its losses to both the flu and the Great War, the city rallied around the Orioles, tooted their triumphs and rode their team’s rivals without mercy. Several times, after games, Baltimore police wielding blackjacks were called to escort opponents off the field. In August, a rhubarb during a game with Buffalo sparked a melee with fans who pelted the visitors with pop bottles and stones; four spectators were arrested. Another time, when an umpire ruled against the Orioles on a close play, hundreds swarmed onto the field and began to strike the arbiter with rolled-up newspapers. More than once, fearing for their safety, umpires refused to work games at Oriole Park (29th Street and Greenmount Avenue), leaving the combatants to mediate themselves using one player from each team.

 

https://www.baltimoresun.com/features/retro-baltimore/bs-fe-retro-1920-orioles-20200401-3auvbp6j5fczlgsare2pdrhuim-story.html

The 1920 team that won the pennant  and their last 25 games and had a .719 winning percentage only beat out the Toronto Maple Leafs by 2.5 games.  Toronto won 24 of their last 26. That is a pennant race the likes of which we won't see again in the world of wildcards.  Toronto was managed by Hugh Duffy, former star outfielder of the 1890s Boston Beanaters who once hit .440 in a season.  Even 100+ years ago the Orioles couldn't escape battles with Toronto and Boston.

The article seems to have missed Ralph Worrell, who I mentioned in another thread.  The 20-year-old star of the 1918 Orioles staff who died of the Spanish flu after his one professional season.

[orioles119]

30 minutes ago, atomic said:

I don't think we can shutdown for 18 months.  I don't think baseball without fans is important to the economy.  I just see spectator sports as the very last thing that comes back.  

Something we can actually agree on.  I believe this social distancing will fizzle out come May... people are going to get fed up with the practice.  Call me selfish, but I want sports back in some capacity.  I want to be able to go to the store and buy something without fear that it is not going to be there.  I want to go to the theater again.  I want to eat in a restaurant again.  I'm sure this is something everyone wants.  There will come a time when the public at large will tire of these measures.  It's callous, but you have to think about the economy too.  With so many people out of work through no fault of their own, it's going to be a struggle.

[scOtt]

7 hours ago, UpstateNYfan said:

You are welcome. You call it condescension, I call it factual truth.

You make it sound like I did it on purpose, which I didn't. It was a mistake! Don't be a dick.