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Inside the beat with the 2011 Orioles.

 


Baseball is about so much more than what you see on TV or read about later. The best part about being a sportswriter is the inside stories, the fun color, the stuff you remember years after the stats and game stories fade. This is the fourth of a weekly series about the 13 years I’ve been in baseball. Each week, I’ll spotlight a new year/team of memories.

One of the first questions you get when you tell people you’re a baseball beat writer is some form of, “What do you do in the offseason?” I’ll tell you what you do in the offseason: you hope your phone doesn’t ring. “Especially when you’re in a crowded bar on New Year’s Eve because a player on the team you cover has been involved in a fatal shooting.

Yes, everyone remembers that final walk-off win in 2011, Game 162 that kept the Red Sox out of the playoffs and caused Orioles utility ...”

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Fans hated Gregg, who ended up with a 4.37 ERA, nearly as bad as Gonzalez. That is, until Gregg and David Ortiz exchanged punches on July 8 at Fenway Park. Gregg had thrown inside several times. Ortiz took exception to that and stormed the mound after jawing with Gregg once he popped up.

“You show them that we’re not backing down,” Gregg said later. “We’re not scared of them — them and their $180 million payroll.”

He was a hero in Baltimore after that. The Orioles had long been seen as a punching bag and Gregg had fought back.

 

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1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

who would be your poster child for this honor?

Well, Belle is a good pick.

John Rocker.  Pete Rose (although I love Pete Rose).  Dibble.  Bonds.  Clemens.  A-Rod, although he has done a masterful job of remaking himself.  Mel Hall.  Canseco.  Milton Bradley.  Doc and Darryl.  Dave Kingman.  Rogers Hornsby.  Kenesaw Mountain Landis, according to some reports, was instrumental in keeping black people out of baseball.  

I mean, I hated Ortiz, too.  He was annoying as hell.  But other than playing for Boston, what'd he really do that was so reprehensible?  Smashed a dugout phone and took PEDs.  Big deal.

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4 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Well, Belle is a good pick.

John Rocker.  Pete Rose (although I love Pete Rose).  Dibble.  Bonds.  Clemens.  A-Rod, although he has done a masterful job of remaking himself.  Mel Hall.  Canseco.  Milton Bradley.  Doc and Darryl.  Dave Kingman.  Rogers Hornsby.  Kenesaw Mountain Landis, according to some reports, was instrumental in keeping black people out of baseball.  

I mean, I hated Ortiz, too.  He was annoying as hell.  But other than playing for Boston, what'd he really do that was so reprehensible?  Smashed a dugout phone and took PEDs.  Big deal.

Good points with all. I hated Rose's personality but did respect his hustle and on the field play.

I am going to have to rethink my previous position on this.,

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