MLBTR: Players Make Counter-Proposal

[Mr. Chewbacca Jr.]

2 hours ago, weams said:

 

MLBPA wants 114 games. MLB wants 50-60 games. Meet in the middle - that's the ~80 game schedule MLB first proposed. Funny how that works.

[SteveA]

1 hour ago, scOtt said:

That's kind of promising! Full prorated (even on a lessened schedule) is quite a concession compared to their ridiculous first "sliding scale" they first proposed.

My memory... but guys scheduled to make $30 mill offered $7 mill I think it was...

It makes a certain amount of sense.  The networks get most of their revenue from the postseason. - regular season nationally televised games get very little ratings.

So the networks will probably pony up a good chunk of what they normally do.  More than prorated for the length of the season.

So even though the lack of fan/parking/concession revenue will hurt the owners, they'll be paying out 1/3 of the payroll while getting more than 1/3 of the TV money presumably.

It could be the framework for a solution.  Paying pro rated salary for a 114 game season while not getting fan revenue for those games was their biggest issue.  This more than cuts that loss in half.  If TV is willing to to still pay a good amount for the postseason that loss isn't too painful.  And accepting the players offer or at least something close to it would let them avoid their biggest PR nightmare of having to open their books.

[HowAboutThat]

What a mess.

Whatever solution is chosen, baseball must end in October. Football,  basketball, hockey, college football, Those are the sports of the fall and of the winter.

Baseball can’t intrude. Even if we only have a 50 game season we must end in October. Anything else will just cheapen the product, Because baseball be intruding on footballs territory and saying, “hey look at me” and football will look back and say, “no”

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Philip said:

What a mess.

Whatever solution is chosen, baseball must end in October. Football,  basketball, hockey, college football, Those are the sports of the fall and of the winter.

Baseball can’t intrude. Even if we only have a 50 game season we must end in October. Anything else will just cheapen the product, Because baseball be intruding on footballs territory and saying, “hey look at me” and football will look back and say, “no”

Yea, I totes don't acknowledge the 2001 World Series.

[atomic]

1 hour ago, Mr. Chewbacca Jr. said:

MLBPA wants 114 games. MLB wants 50-60 games. Meet in the middle - that's the ~80 game schedule MLB first proposed. Funny how that works.

The owners seem to be willing to pay a little less than 1/3 salary no matter how many games are played. I don’t know what meeting in the middle of games played had to do with anything,  

[DrungoHazewood]

13 hours ago, scOtt said:

You should be able to get... 20+K for that even if it's in terrible shape. That '63 is one of THE classic cars!

Sure.  But do you want to be the guy who let a '63 split window go for $25k?  At the very least it pretties up the garage.

[DrungoHazewood]

15 hours ago, Mr. Chewbacca Jr. said:

How dare you disrespect curling like that. It's easily deserving of CSPAN7 or 8.

I would totally have a curling rink in my back yard if Maryland didn't now have the climate of Alabama.

[Redskins Rick]

17 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I would totally have a curling rink in my back yard if Maryland didn't now have the climate of Alabama.

What, you dont like humidity? : )

 

[DrungoHazewood]

2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

What, you dont like humidity? : )

 

If air conditioning hadn't been invented I'd live in Colorado or Switzerland or Canada or something.

[Redskins Rick]

28 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

If air conditioning hadn't been invented I'd live in Colorado or Switzerland or Canada or something.

I was in Colorado in August one year, and dang it was humid.

A friend kept telling me about Arizona and how it was a dry heat and no humidity.

For me, when I was in Phoenix, it was dang hot, dry or not dry, it was nasty hot.

I tried visiting relatives in Florida one August, that was a mistake.

I was wetter from walking to the house, to the car in the driveway, then if I had jumped into the pool, which in August, was pretty much a large hottub.

[Camden_yardbird]

I would like to see what MLB does with a 50 game season.  They need ratings, and I have real concerns how further unbalanced the schedule would get in an attempt maneuver the right markets into the playoffs.

[Mr. Chewbacca Jr.]

4 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I would totally have a curling rink in my back yard if Maryland didn't now have the climate of Alabama.

I actually LOVE curling. Every Olympics I get so amp'd up about it. Let's play sometime.

[Mr. Chewbacca Jr.]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mlb-owners-say-they-could-lose-4-billion-even-if-games-are-played-does-that-math-add-up/

Great article from FiveThirtyEight outlining the finances of MLB in midst of these proposals.

[DrungoHazewood]

32 minutes ago, Mr. Chewbacca Jr. said:

I actually LOVE curling. Every Olympics I get so amp'd up about it. Let's play sometime.

Several times I've looked at schedules for the open curling at the (I forget the name) curling rink that's somewhere near Landover, I think.  But it's never worked out.

[osfan83]

20 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Several times I've looked at schedules for the open curling at the (I forget the name) curling rink that's somewhere near Landover, I think.  But it's never worked out.

I might be one of the few Americans that stayed up till 4AM to watch the USA win the gold last Olympics live!