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Should Adley Rutschman play in the majors in 2021?

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Should Adley Rutschman play in the majors in 2021?  

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  1. 1. Should Adley Rutschman play in the majors in 2021?

    • Yes, he should be on the Opening Day Roster if he has a good spring
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    • Yes, no matter what, but only after he passes the date for a 7th year of control
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    • Only if we are contending and he’s needed to boost the team
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    • Only if he looks ready to be an above average major leaguer immediately
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    • Only if he looks ready to be a competent major leaguer
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    • Only for a September call-up at most
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    • No, save his service time and bring him up in 2022
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Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

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9 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Since I believe Elias has stated Adley will start in AA, and the start of the AA season has been delayed until early May, maybe we should put him on the major league team for the month of April to help him get game action to prepare him for his AA debut.

And if he looks like the best player on the team?  Send him down anyway?

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Can_of_corn
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People get caught up in the whole has to prove himself in the minors stuff the GM spouts. Adley is 23 He was the 1-1 pick out of college. Now maybe he busts, maybe he's Wieters but wast

Oriole1940
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This is the most sensible suggestion about AR that I have read.  Since none has the power to look into the future for AR s handling of  the physical, mental or emotional challenges of baseball,  I too

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It isn’t a long list.   I recall Bob Horner (1:1 pick 1977, 21.9 rWAR and 127 OPS+) and Pete Incaviglia (1:8 pick 1985, 10.3 rWAR, 104 OPS+) never played in the minors at all.    John Olerud (1:1 pick

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

And if he looks like the best player on the team?  Send him down anyway?

Guess I should have put a smiley.   Thought the ludicrousness (ludicrosity?) of putting a guy in the majors to prepare him for the minors was self evident.

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47 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

How do you define ready?  

Polished defensively and proven capable of hitting MLB level pitching. He should only be brought up if we know there is no developmental benefit to keeping him down. If there is any uncertainty, let him earn his way and don't burn service time. 

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Polished defensively and proven capable of hitting MLB level pitching. He should only be brought up if we know there is no developmental benefit to keeping him down. If there is any uncertainty, let him earn his way and don't burn service time. 

Well by all accounts, he is polished defensively now.

And how do you define capable of hitting MLB pitching?  That is a very broad and general thing to say that could have a ton of meaning.  What is the criteria?  How do you define it?

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5 hours ago, Aglets said:

Can I have a list of highly touted college bats that never played in a minor league game above low A and went on to have very impressive careers?

I'm not saying the list doesn't exist.  I'm just trying to gather some data here.  And let's say in the past 30-35 years.

I am only on page 4 of the thread so this may well have been answered.

But here's my list:

Horner, Robert
Winfield, David

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

I just don’t see how performance is irrelevant to that.    It’s one thing to park a guy with a .900 OPS in the minors all year, and it’s another thing to keep a .700 OPS guy down all year.   Regardless of age.  
 

Before service time and free agency was a thing teams would pretty routinely call up prospects who weren't remotely dominant in the minors.  Jim Palmer walked 130 in 129 innings at the age of 18 in Class A ball.  Today that would put him about two or three years from the majors.  He spent his age 19 season pitching the whole year for the Baltimore Orioles.

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The idea that he needs to prove something in AA is funny to me.

Dude is coming to spring training, right? The O's will know in a week if he's as good as the guys we have now. They might not know every detail he needs to improve upon, but with the way they're using video and data, I'd bet they already know what he needs to work on.

There might be reasons to send him down beyond service time, but they've likely already identified those reasons.

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28 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Before service time and free agency was a thing teams would pretty routinely call up prospects who weren't remotely dominant in the minors.  Jim Palmer walked 130 in 129 innings at the age of 18 in Class A ball.  Today that would put him about two or three years from the majors.  He spent his age 19 season pitching the whole year for the Baltimore Orioles.

This is true, but both the union and the owners have incentive not to promote the youngest players, whether that coincides with playing the best guys at any age or not.

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From Roch:

Let’s close with Hyde’s response to how catcher Adley Rutschman looked this week.

“I’ve only seen him in the intake trailer. Looked good there.”

Update: Hyde hasn’t seen Rutschman because the No. 1 prospect is working out at Twin Lakes Park.

Some players will move back and forth.

https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2021/02/hyde-on-latest-camp-arrivals-rule-5-pitchers-and-more.html

Doesn’t sound like he’s getting a shot to make the team out of spring training.    No surprise there.   

 

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Here’s the Twin Lakes list:

C Maverick Handley
C Adley Rutschman
RHP Cody Carroll
RHP Jay Flaa
RHP Mickey Jannis
RHP Dusten Knight
RHP Konner Wade
RHP Spenser Watkins

Definitely no preferred treatment here. He's starting camp with the non prospect pitchers. 

 

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