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1 minute ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

I would be happy w/ Mike Bordick comp.

Me too, especially since someone out of Henderson, Westburg, Ortiz or Hernaiz should be taking that job in about 24 months.

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That's kinda tough to do given that all that's available on Watson are some brief videos and written blurbs. But from what I've read, the 5'9" Watson profiles more as a second baseman. Video's show ex

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Saw Grenier take a fairly difficult play and make it look real easy today. I want to believe in his bat but I can't quite get there yet. Hope he sustains what he's been doing, or builds on it.

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Yes they will and that should not matter one little bit.

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5 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

He seems to be either striking out or walking.  I noticed he had 10 K's and 8 walks.  Maybe he's channeling his inner Chris Davis.  Be one with the ball!

He has achieved two of the three true outcomes.  Unfortunately, 66 percent is not a passing grade.

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5 hours ago, 7Mo said:

Depending on who is available, I wouldn't feel terrible about Cowser.

I would if we passed on Lawlar or Leiter though.

I would feel better about an underslot pick if it were a pitcher.  The O's haven't invested enough draft capital in pitching lately and that needs to change this year.  Cowser sounds similar to Hjerstad.  

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1 hour ago, Three Run Homer said:

I would feel better about an underslot pick if it were a pitcher.  The O's haven't invested enough draft capital in pitching lately and that needs to change this year.  Cowser sounds similar to Hjerstad.  

The underslot pitcher IMO is Sam Bachman if the O's go that route.

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11 hours ago, 7Mo said:

The underslot pitcher IMO is Sam Bachman if the O's go that route.

There is a lot of heat on the fastball and slider. The mechanics are violent, the finish is poor and he falls off significantly, and he is inverted in the back side. He is 6'-01" 235 or so. I hope he is not the pick. Good stuff, but his profile screams surgery, and reliever, to me. Maybe a contender takes him and slots him into their pen sooner than later. 

Now, Michael McGreevy out of UC Santa Barbara, him I could see. He is 6'-04" 200 and sits 91-93, touches 96, with good sink and finish. A good above average four pitch mix. A strike thrower. Comparisons to Shane Bieber in college. 

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I thought Elias was all over House?  I wouldn’t be surprised to see us take Davis if he’s there. That’s just too much value to pass up. Plus taking Davis falls in line to what Elias’ college bat preference. 
 

Teams do weird things in the draft, see us with Kjerstad. Every draft pundit wanted us to take Liberatore over Grayson a few years ago. 

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On 6/27/2021 at 6:41 PM, 7Mo said:

Have you seen any talk of what's different for him this year?

K's still a little too high, 50 in 156 AB's. 

If he can get close to a JJ type, I'd be thrilled.

The thing I really miss about JJ was his ability to tag out base-runners.  Nobody had better hands - in making the catch and applying the tag.  And it's a big deal, because I see our infielders bobble throws and blindly try sweeping tags that are hit or miss attempts rather than fundamentally sound movements.  Plays that he would routinely make, they don't come close enough to even make the attempt.  It'd also be nice to have a good strong arm at SS.  

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21 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

The thing I really miss about JJ was his ability to tag out base-runners.  Nobody had better hands - in making the catch and applying the tag.  And it's a big deal, because I see our infielders bobble throws and blindly try sweeping tags that are hit or miss attempts rather than fundamentally sound movements.  Plays that he would routinely make, they don't come close enough to even make the attempt.  It'd also be nice to have a good strong arm at SS.  

He passed that tagging skill along to Schoop and Manny too.   All three were excellent taggers, and I think Schoop’s size intimidated a lot of runners when he straddled the bag.   

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

He passed that tagging skill along to Schoop and Manny too.   All three were excellent taggers, and I think Schoop’s size intimidated a lot of runners when he straddled the bag.   

Schoop didn't have a lot of range at 2B, but nobody stands in there on double plays like he does, and so far - I've never seen anyone willing to run into him.  

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4 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I thought Elias was all over House?  I wouldn’t be surprised to see us take Davis if he’s there. That’s just too much value to pass up. Plus taking Davis falls in line to what Elias’ college bat preference. 
 

Teams do weird things in the draft, see us with Kjerstad. Every draft pundit wanted us to take Liberatore over Grayson a few years ago. 

Davis is reportedly the  best college bat but his glove at catcher is questionable according to reports.  Great arm but poor glove.   He is slow so that will not play in the outfield.   That makes him a backup catcher/DH/ possible 1B.   That is not what I want the O's drafting with the #5 pick.

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On 6/28/2021 at 1:07 PM, Three Run Homer said:

Why can't we ever have nice things?  

Cowser actually seems like a heckuva prospect - with great speed, power, more walks than K's, but... if the O's pick him, they will get roasted.  

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2 hours ago, Ruzious said:

Cowser actually seems like a heckuva prospect - with great speed, power, more walks than K's, but... if the O's pick him, they will get roasted.  

Yes they will and that should not matter one little bit.

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