I'm already over this offseason.

[Yardball85]

Depending on the contract, I expect to be jealous here. Ugh...

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Yardball85 said:

Depending on the contract, I expect to be jealous here. Ugh...

Don't they know they lost 91 games last year?  They have to do a full teardown so they can be good by 2028, it's the only way!

[Yardball85]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Don't they know they lost 91 games last year?  They have to do a full teardown so they can be good by 2028, it's the only way!

No, SiNcE tHeY dOnT pLaY iN tHe aL eAsT, tHeY aRe aLlOwEd tO tRy tO bE gOoD!

[Frobby]

22 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Don't they know they lost 91 games last year?  They have to do a full teardown so they can be good by 2028, it's the only way!

I know you’re just instigating here, but 91 losses isn’t 115.   Not close.   That’s what Elias walked into.   And he didn’t really do a teardown; that had been done at the trade deadline before he arrived.   You could say he finished off the teardown, but all the really choice assets had been dealt already.   

It will be interesting to see where the Cubs go from here.   
 

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I know you’re just instigating here, but 91 losses isn’t 115.   Not close.   That’s what Elias walked into.   And he didn’t really do a teardown; that had been done at the trade deadline before he arrived.   You could say he finished off the teardown, but all the really choice assets had been dealt already.   

It will be interesting to see where the Cubs go from here.   
 

I'm not instigating is the proper term, not as if I expected an actual debate. 

More like resignation that this has gone on this long and doesn't appear to be changing in the near future.

There is ample evidence that what is being done isn't the only way.  It's the way ownership chose and I feel like a huge reason why is the money it saves.

 

[Sports Guy]

17 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I know you’re just instigating here, but 91 losses isn’t 115.   Not close.   That’s what Elias walked into.   And he didn’t really do a teardown; that had been done at the trade deadline before he arrived.   You could say he finished off the teardown, but all the really choice assets had been dealt already.   

It will be interesting to see where the Cubs go from here.   
 

Gotta love the excuses.

[Tryptamine]

44 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I know you’re just instigating here, but 91 losses isn’t 115.   Not close.   That’s what Elias walked into.   And he didn’t really do a teardown; that had been done at the trade deadline before he arrived.   You could say he finished off the teardown, but all the really choice assets had been dealt already.   

It will be interesting to see where the Cubs go from here.   
 

They pretty much have to get a SS, and while I don't see them giving Correa 350M, there has been interest in Trevor Story. Add him, Conforto and Kikuchi and the Cubs are decent for '22, with a lot of money open for '23.

[interloper]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Gotta love the excuses.

He's not wrong about any of those facts.

[Sports Guy]

2 hours ago, Yardball85 said:

Depending on the contract, I expect to be jealous here. Ugh...

3/71..opt out after 2 years.

Easily would have have beaten that although he would have had to have given me 3 years before the opt out.

[Frobby]

20 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

3/71..opt out after 2 years.

Easily would have have beaten that although he would have had to have given me 3 years before the opt out.

Surprised he settled for such a short deal.   

[Yardball85]

21 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

3/71..opt out after 2 years.

great Easily would have have beaten that although he would have had to have given me 3 years before the opt out.

Great contract for the Cubs.  But I agree, if he opts out two years from now, then what's the point?  We'd want good Stroman when we are competitive consistently. 

[Sports Guy]

Just now, Yardball85 said:

Great contract for the Cubs.  But I agree, if he opts out two years from now, then what's the point?  We'd want good Stroman when we are competitive consistently. 

But you make him turn it down.  If he says no, so be it.  But you make him turn down the extra 30M. 

[Sports Guy]

The DBacks just gave Melancon 2/14.

[Tryptamine]

Sounds like a decent chance Rodon and Kikuchi are coming off the market tonight.

[now]

40 pages and counting... hmm. We may be over the offseason, but the OH is still going strong!