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Is there anyone that has improved under the guidance of Ryan Fuller under Matt Bourgschulte?  Who has been helped the most? I know it’s a bit of cliche to blame the hitting coach, but it does seem like the pitching staff is doing more with less.  The hitting instructors reference EV and swing decisions and results will follow, but not seeing improvement mostly regression across the board.  

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When it comes to a philosophical change to hitting, it takes a buy in and lots of time to make these changes. To have them sink in daily reps, and then to become the sub-conscious reaction in the process of hitting. They are changing things they have done for 20 years or more. The payoff can be great, but it can be tough. It can take weeks and often several months.

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