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Hall can get a strikeout at any time. Situationally, he can be an asset on the MLB roster. Especially in extra innings where you start with a guy on second. Right now, Bautista is that guy that can get us out of those jams,  but he can’t do it every time. He’s also starting to throw multiple innings to close out a game. I wouldn’t trust Hall for more than a batter or two, but he’d be one of their best options situationally. Plus, he’s a lefty.

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The rosters are expanding, but overall, Elias needs to do some real roster management if this team is going to have enough gas to finish the season.  These are 5 players that need to be added to the r

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I think the OP isn't so much about ranking talent as addressing current needs into September, which call out for adding more pitching over yet another infield sub beyond Vavra and Henderson.

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Hard to take this seriously when you have Harvey over Westburg

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15 hours ago, rm5678 said:

I don't think Odor will be DFA'd. His clubhouse presence would be sorely missed.

Odor is not going anywhere IMO. Nevin goes down for Gunnar and Odor will lose some at bats in September, but the Orioles are not going to mess with the winning juju right now. Odor will stay on the team and still play about half time IMO. 

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Odor is not going anywhere IMO. Nevin goes down for Gunnar and Odor will lose some at bats in September, but the Orioles are not going to mess with the winning juju right now. Odor will stay on the team and still play about half time IMO. 

The juju sure took a bit hit when they traded Mancini and Lopez.

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5 minutes ago, dzorange said:

Hall can get a strikeout at any time. Situationally, he can be an asset on the MLB roster. Especially in extra innings where you start with a guy on second. Right now, Bautista is that guy that can get us out of those jams,  but he can’t do it every time. He’s also starting to throw multiple innings to close out a game. I wouldn’t trust Hall for more than a batter or two, but he’d be one of their best options situationally. Plus, he’s a lefty.

You want to put a guy out there to pitch the 10th inning with a runner on base who has thrown 10 wild pitches, 48 BBs, 2 balks, and 2 HBP(I'm surprised this number is so low) this year in 75 AAA innings?  

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The juju sure took a bit hit when they traded Mancini and Lopez.

Neither one of those guys had juju. You know it, I know it, and juju knows it.

 

But seriously...I suspect you would agree that the Orioles are not going to cut Odor this season. They have stuck with him through 126 games. They are not going to remove him from the roster IMO. 

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13 minutes ago, dzorange said:

Hall can get a strikeout at any time. Situationally, he can be an asset on the MLB roster. Especially in extra innings where you start with a guy on second. Right now, Bautista is that guy that can get us out of those jams,  but he can’t do it every time. He’s also starting to throw multiple innings to close out a game. I wouldn’t trust Hall for more than a batter or two, but he’d be one of their best options situationally. Plus, he’s a lefty.

Hall can give up a walk at any time.

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You want to put a guy out there to pitch the 10th inning with a runner on base who has thrown 10 wild pitches, 48 BBs, 2 balks, and 2 HBP(I'm surprised this number is so low) this year in 75 AAA innings?  

I want a guy out there with a runner on second and no out who can strike a batter out.

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Connelly had an interesting piece in the Athletic comparing the situation in 2012 with Manny and the current situation with Gunnar. His point, (its behind a pay wall or I would post) is that Manny was brought up to play defense primarily at 3B. Reynolds and Benemit were terrible there and apparently they viewed Manny as a Defense first player and did not expect him to hit.

Conversely, the 2022 O's have a very solid defense currently. They need offense much more than defense from Gunnar. Connelly states that he thinks that is a very big ask of a young player to come up in the middle of a pennant race and be the offensive savior. I think it's a very fair analysis.

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14 hours ago, emmett16 said:

DL Hall just came into 1-1 game in 8th and proceeded to walk lead-off batter, throw a ground ball, give up a double, and then throw two wild pitches to allow the 3rd run to score.  Not sure he helps out much this season at the MLB level.  He's got some demons to contend with before he should be exposed to MLB hitters.

If he can't step up, then Vespi needs to

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15 hours ago, wildcard said:

Roster expands by one position player and one pitcher.   Who goes to get the other three pitchers on the active roster

Currently Nevin and Rico Garcia for sure.  I feel like Hall and Vespi need to battle it out for the last LHP Reliever role

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Hall can get a strikeout at any time. Situationally, he can be an asset on the MLB roster. Especially in extra innings where you start with a guy on second. Right now, Bautista is that guy that can get us out of those jams,  but he can’t do it every time. He’s also starting to throw multiple innings to close out a game. I wouldn’t trust Hall for more than a batter or two, but he’d be one of their best options situationally. Plus, he’s a lefty.

Right now Bautista and Baker are the only two avg a K/9 over 9 (12.0 and 9.91 respectively). It drops down pretty quick after that.  Hall is averging 14.8 K/9 at Norfolk over 70+ IP. He struck out 6 in 3.2 IP in his lone start.  I agree, if situational, he's the shutdown reliever that can truly replace Lopez and give Bautista a bit of a break. I think it also takes pressure off of Krehbiel, Akin, and Baker a bit where they can be used in some more low leverage situations to build momentum and confidence.

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22 hours ago, ScGO's said:

4. Matt Harvey - I still try to remind people that he had a 4.60 FIP last year without the new Wall.  He also didn't have quite the defense behind him either. Matt Harvey has pitched and pitched well in the World Series. I really think if last year's Harvey pitched for this year's O's he would have been just like Jordan Lyles. His numbers are great at Norfolk, but he's had some great starts. I think he could help give us innings down the stretch if there is a need.

Since 2017 his FIP is 5.32, and in Norfolk he's sporting a 4.84 ERA.  The most likely outcome of Harvey in the majors this year is an ERA north of 5.00.  He's a mopup pitcher.

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