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1 hour ago, interloper said:

The Orioles wouldn't want to trade for him, but maybe some team who is contending with a weak 1B or who needs a bat vs LHP. I could also see a rebuilding team who thinks they are ready to pop trading for him since he's still plenty young. 

I guess so, but I think you could find a bat against lefties in any system, no matter how weak.  

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My favorite thing to do when people start whipping up fantasy trades is to do the reverse.  If the Orioles were trying to trade for that player (in this case, if the Orioles were trying to trade FOR M

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We’d certainly be selling low if we tried to trade him now.  He’s a streaky player who’s capable of making up ground in a hurry.  We just saw Gunnar raise his OPS by 102 points in a week, and Mountcas

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I made a post in a different thread where I was arguing basically the same thing.  To me, the Wall is the biggest “narrative” factor that would help teams get there, in terms of being willing to

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12 minutes ago, oriole said:

I don’t think you’re gonna get much for a first basemen that can’t hit righties, get on base, or play good defense. You may as well keep him to fit the role he is in. But a semi-permanent move has to be made. He can’t be in the lineup every day anymore. It’s beyond “bad luck”

I don't think semi-permanent is a thing.

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I would not trade Mountcastle now.   

Get him healthy.   Hyde can platoon him with O'Hearn.   At some point he can be optioned if he is not hitting.  He has 2 options.    He can work on his swing decision and plate discipline  at AAA.   He is making  738K this year and probably makes less in the minors.  He is not a financial burden.

Long term Elias may want a left-handed power hitter at 1B.   Kjerstad?  Or maybe its just a spot for Mayo though he is right-handed.

But for now I would keep him and work with him.   He is a better player than what he is showing right now.

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5 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I would not trade Mountcastle now.   

Get him healthy.   Hyde can platoon him with O'Hearn.   At some point he can be optioned if he is not hitting.  He has 2 options.    He can work on his swing decision and plate discipline  at AAA.   He is making  738K this year and probably makes less in the minors.  He is not a financial burden.

Long term Elias may want a left-handed power hitter at 1B.   Kjerstad?  Or maybe its just a spot for Mayo though he is right-handed.

But for now I would keep him and work with him.   He is a better player than what he is showing right now.

A calm, reasoned take that I can get behind. 

I definitely can see a scenario where Mountcastle goes god-mode for a month or two at the exact right time that we need him to. And if he doesn't, there's no reason we can't option him. Especially for an organization with very little true 1B depth, it makes sense to keep him in the organization. 

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1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Mounty doesn’t need to be dealt to a contender. 
 

If I were a team in need of a first baseman for a few more years and I had a more favorable park, I would inquire.

He’s got a lot of power and until he gets into his arb 2 season, he should be worth the money. Beyond that season depends on his performance.

A team like Cincinnati makes a lot of sense imo. Actually, 2 other teams in that division, the Cubs and Brewers make some sense too.

Cincinnati already has an IF logjam.  Spencer Steer is better than Mountcastle, Joey Votto is coming back, and they have one of the best 1B prospects in baseball who has a 1.162 OPS in AAA (Christian Encarnacion-Strand). 

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2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

He's just a burden everywhere else when not in the batter's box against a pitcher who happens to throw with his left hand.

Not if he is at AAA.  What do you think he makes at AAA.  300/yr.   So maybe 180K for the rest of the season if he is at AAA.   If  he hitting lefties I am fine with him platooning with O'Hearn for now.

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1 minute ago, ArtVanDelay said:

Cincinnati already has an IF logjam.  Spencer Steer is better than Mountcastle, Joey Votto is coming back, and they have one of the best 1B prospects in baseball who has a 1.162 OPS in AAA (Christian Encarnacion-Strand). 

Does Steer also play third though?

They have one of the worst 1B productions in the league, so I assumed Steer was mainly at third.

Strand could make it irrelevant though. I know he’s a top 10 prospect for them. 

Cinci has awful production from DH too.

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Not if he is at AAA.  What do you think he makes at AAA.  300/yr.   So maybe 180K for the rest of the season if he is at AAA.   If  he hitting lefties I am fine with him platooning with O'Hearn for now.

Good, then send him to AAA.  I doubt that goes over well but I also don't care.

I'd rather just give the job to O'Hearn full time, let Tony start at 1B vs LHP if O'Hearn can't hit it and bring up Cowser.

 

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1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Does Steer also play third though?

They have one of the worst 1B productions in the league, so I assumed Steer was mainly at third.

Strand could make it irrelevant though. I know he’s a top 10 prospect for them. 

Cinci has awful production from DH too.

I can't imagine a team with terrible 1st base production thinking that Ryan Mountcastle is some sort of an upgrade.

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3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Does Steer also play third though?

They have one of the worst 1B productions in the league, so I assumed Steer was mainly at third.

Strand could make it irrelevant though. I know he’s a top 10 prospect for them. 

Cinci has awful production from DH too.

Yeah Steer can play second and third.  I believe he’s at first out of necessity right now.  The problem is that they also have Jonathan India, Elly De La Cruz and Matt McLain in the IF.  I assume Votto DHs and Steer stays at first.

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6 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I can't imagine a team with terrible 1st base production thinking that Ryan Mountcastle is some sort of an upgrade.

Mounty has been an 800ish OPS 30 homer guy recently and without the wall, my guess is that he would be approaching those numbers again.

A lot of his statcast numbers are very good. He’s an ideal change of scenery guy and other teams know this.

Most other parks he would be doing a lot better. A rebuilding team who needs some power and a first baseman could definitely view him as a higher upside play.

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3 minutes ago, ArtVanDelay said:

Yeah Steer can play second and third.  I believe he’s at first out of necessity right now.  The problem is that they also have Jonathan India, Elly De La Cruz and Matt McLain in the IF.  I assume Votto DHs and Steer stays at first.

I did forget about India.

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