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If Cowser proves unusable, you can stick with Mountcastle or try Kjerstad as alternative to a Tommy Pham rental kind of situation.    

Teoscar's out there - maybe Eloy if White Sox go deeper.    The '23 White Sox haven't been as bad as the '18 Orioles, when Gausman-Schoop last hour was a little bit of a surprise.

If today became Lorenzen, Bummer, Hendriks I'd be happy.

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Just now, OriolesMagic83 said:

When you say,Zimmerman and Irvin I want to vomit.  Starting pitching is very thing now and what if an injury occurs?  Lorenzen like it or not would be a big upgrade and a playoff starter for the O's.

Who would Lorenzen be a big upgrade over?

We have two of Irvin and Zimmerman. 

I would rather have Bradish, Grayson, Kremer, and Gibson start a playoff game over anyone but Ed Rod that is available. 

We do need a reliever and a SH/LH CF. 

Our trade pool is probably 

SP - Flaherty, Lorenzen

RP - Ottavino, Raley, Jorge Lopez

CF - Carlson

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1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

So he’s a rental….I don’t expect Elias to trade for him

I would expect that Elias is pursuing multiple different rental options right now.

Not sure why anyone thinks that being a rental would be a deal breaker for Elias. 

To me it seems much more likely that he deals for several rentals than breaking the prospect bank open for pitchers with years of control left. There's just not much of anything available right now that isn't a rental other than Verlander (who everyone wishes was a rental instead)

 

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This is an excellent buy low spot on Carlson. No other contender really needs a CF and Carlson appears to be their Connor Norby of OF. Carlson would be insurance for this year and then a 1:1 replacement for Hicks next year. Also, McKenna is out of options for next year and is RH. 

I really hope the Cards make a stupid trade. 

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16 minutes ago, Hallas said:

I saw some chatter about Logan Gilbert.  That's an interesting idea.  4 more years of control left.  But he's going to be expensive.  At least 2 out of our top 10, maybe more.

If Elias,is going to do a deal shipping top prospects out, I hope it's for Gilbert not Verlander.  I really can't see Elias shipping out major prospects for Verlander.  I don't see him giving up top prospects for a pitcher in decline who's career could suddenly end.  What if Verlander loses a little off his pitches in the off-season and suddenly can't get out major leaguers or is a mediocre 5th starter in 2024.

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18 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Lorenzen isn’t a difference maker. Why should we trade value to eat innings when Irvin and Zimmerman can do that until Wells gets back?  

Because Lorenzen is better than Irvin and Zimmerman and we do not know if Wells will be able to rejoin the rotation or how effective he will be, if he does. 

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4 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

If Elias,is going to do a deal shipping top prospects out, I hope it's for Gilbert not Verlander.  I really can't see Elias shipping out major prospects for Verlander.  I don't see him giving up top prospects for a pitcher in decline who's career could suddenly end.  What if Verlander loses a little off his pitches in the off-season and suddenly can't get out major leaguers or is a mediocre 5th starter in 2024.

I'd pay a pretty steep price for Gilbert.  Norby/Ortiz, Kjerstad/Mayo, and I'd probably throw in some guys from 11-20 in there, like Fabian or Prieto.  I think there's some general concern with pitchers and their arms falling off, but that's certainly a bigger concern when you're 40 vs 26.  If we can swing a trade for Carlson I'd probably see if I can dangle Cowser as well.

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