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I think Hader will want too many years for the Orioles to be able to get him. Although if they somehow are able to sign him, I will be very very happy about it.

The simple reality is that we have a cheap owner and we also have an All Star closer working his way back to recovery from Tommy John Surgery. If all goes well, then we will have Bautista back for the 2025 season. So giving another closer alot of years doesn't make a whole lot of sense, unless you're doing it with the idea of insuring the Closer role with depth, and that you will plan to share the closer role in certain situations when one of them has pitched too many days.

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10 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

This is the best reliever FA signing out there imo…well, depending on what he signs for.

 

Interesting. He's 30, will play 2024 at age 31.

Average FB velocity was 97 mph last two years.

34% GB% last year which is about his lifetime average.

13.24 K/9 last year which is well above his lifetime average of ~10Ks/9.

ERA (if you care) last year was 3.10. Lifetime = 4.64 (OMG!!!)

Over his 8 year career he has not been good until this last year. (Not a small sample size). 

He made $1.75M last year, so he likely will be inexpensive. 

Seems about right for what the O's will spend. 

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2 minutes ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

Interesting. He's 30, will play 2024 at age 31.

Average FB velocity was 97 mph last two years.

34% GB% last year which is about his lifetime average.

13.24 K/9 last year which is well above his lifetime average of ~10Ks/9.

ERA (if you care) last year was 3.10. Lifetime = 4.64 (OMG!!!)

Over his 8 year career he has not been good until this last year. (Not a small sample size). 

He made $1.75M last year, so he likely will be inexpensive. 

Seems about right for what the O's will spend. 

What he made last year is irrelevant.  

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9 minutes ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

Interesting. He's 30, will play 2024 at age 31.

Average FB velocity was 97 mph last two years.

34% GB% last year which is about his lifetime average.

13.24 K/9 last year which is well above his lifetime average of ~10Ks/9.

ERA (if you care) last year was 3.10. Lifetime = 4.64 (OMG!!!)

Over his 8 year career he has not been good until this last year. (Not a small sample size). 

He made $1.75M last year, so he likely will be inexpensive. 

Seems about right for what the O's will spend. 

No, he’s going to get a big contract. I don’t think I would go 4+ years unless the AAV is less than I think.

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7 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

What he made last year is irrelevant.  

It’s indirectly relevant, insofar as that reflects his performance prior to 2023, which won’t be ignored by teams in determining what they’re willing to pay him now.  Obviously, free agency is different from arbitration, and last year’s results do influence things.

He seems like a guy who will do well in a good organization.  
 

 

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7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It’s indirectly relevant, insofar as that reflects his performance prior to 2023, which won’t be ignored by teams in determining what they’re willing to pay him now.  Obviously, free agency is different from arbitration, and last year’s results do influence things.

He seems like a guy who will do well in a good organization.  
 

 

Well there is also the idea that he was a starter for most of his career.   He was a highly ranked prospect years ago. Talent is there but now it seems that he has a role that fits him best. 

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