Kyle Bradish Has Sprained UCL, Will Start Season On IL (4/9 Update: Assigned rehab assignment w/Aberdeen)

[interloper]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

He certainly didn’t projecting someone who is super happy imo.

No, but why would he be? We'd probably just call that spin if we saw it. But there's no panic either, which of course there shouldn't be or he wouldn't be a good GM. 

He's going to go by what the medical staff recommend for now and hopefully land some innings help in the interim. I'm sure internally he's as bummed or pissed about it as the next guy. 

[Moose Milligan]

 

25 minutes ago, TopGunnar said:

Sure. It is a significant number. But we were talking about elbow only. He said every pitchers arm “breaks”. Which isn’t even close to being accurate. Sorry if we disagree 

Lol, okay dude.  Pretty sure everyone here knew what I meant except for you.  

[interloper]

Just now, Moose Milligan said:

 

Lol, okay dude.  Pretty sure everyone here knew what I meant except for you.  

I guess he's not familiar with the famous weams thread that we all reference a million times per season. 

[Moose Milligan]

1 minute ago, interloper said:

I guess he's not familiar with the famous weams thread that we all reference a million times per season. 

Breaks, breaks down...a debate on semantics.  No matter how you cut it, guys get hurt and they can't pitch.  

[DrinkinWithFermi]

46 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Well they have to be ok with taking Cease into OD too. I know they say they  are ok with it but it’s a big risk and if Cowser or Kjerstad, Norby, Povich and say a guy like Wagner is on the board, I’m not sure they say no to that. 

I think Getz has backed himself into a corner by repeatedly saying he is fine with keeping Cease into the season and not dealing him prior to pitchers and catchers reporting, and he would have to get an absolute haul to trade him during ST after all of that.

I don't think that package is enough to get him to budge, especially with his newfound leverage from the Bradish injury. 

 

[Billy F-Face3]

Strangely enough, I was watching the MASN Oriiles Podcast last night and thinking about the pitching depth. Beyond Irvin and Wells, who can be relied upon if there were injuries? 

I mean, I had to get into saying things like Zimmerman, Bauman, McDermott, and Povich as backup starting rotation options with Akin, Vespi, and Baker being bullpen options.

We need more depth now. I want Montgomery to be signed. (Wishing). Otherwise I'd be interested to see if Ryu could be helpful. And trade for at least one solid better bullpen arm. You can pluck the others off the waiver wire like before but right now we need at least one slam dunk bullpen acquisition with Wells and Irvin going into the starting rotation.

[Sports Guy]

5 minutes ago, interloper said:

No, but why would he be? We'd probably just call that spin if we saw it. But there's no panic either, which of course there shouldn't be or he wouldn't be a good GM. 

He's going to go by what the medical staff recommend for now and hopefully land some innings help in the interim. I'm sure internally he's as bummed or pissed about it as the next guy. 

 I agree. I’m just saying if you are reading his facial expression and body language, he’s clearly upset/concerned about it.

I don’t think anything there makes me think he’s more or less likely heading toward TJ surgery. I just think that’s inevitable whether he was crying or doing cartwheels during the interview.

[RVAOsFan]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Elias is "hopeful" but I don't think anyone will know until we see how he responds to treatment. Some people do, some don't. Basically he went from our #2 pitcher stud to a question mark who could potentially be out until mid-2025 if they keep delaying.

Not trying to be ticky tacky but Elias was quoted saying he expects them back 

[interloper]

5 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Strangely enough, I was watching the MASN Oriiles Podcast last night and thinking about the pitching depth. Beyond Irvin and Wells, who can be relied upon if there were injuries? 

I mean, I had to get into saying things like Zimmerman, Bauman, McDermott, and Povich as backup starting rotation options with Akin, Vespi, and Baker being bullpen options.

We need more depth now. I want Montgomery to be signed. (Wishing). Otherwise I'd be interested to see if Ryu could be helpful. And trade for at least one solid better bullpen arm. You can pluck the others off the waiver wire like before but right now we need at least one slam dunk bullpen acquisition with Wells and Irvin going into the starting rotation.

Yeah beyond Irvin and Wells, your next immediate plug-and-play option is Zimmermann. That's not great. 

Then it's Akin, assuming he's being built up as a starter, which he damn well should be now. 

Then it's your prospects - Povich and McDermott. They might be ready in June or July but they aren't in April and May, probably. 

Emergency options at Norfolk include Ryan Watson? Andrew Suarez who last started big league games in 2018? 

Rough. 

Edited February 15 by interloper

[ThisIsBirdland]

2 minutes ago, RVAOsFan said:

Not trying to be ticky tacky but Elias was quoted saying he expects them back 

That carries some weight for me too (not a lot, but some), but people are rightly pointing to the Dillon Tate comments last year. The O's certainly expected him back and it didn't happen.

The Bautista situation was different IMO; I don't think they ever had much hope he'd be back but it was worth a shot because it likely wouldn't impact 2024 whether they'd performed the surgery in early September vs early November.

[DrinkinWithFermi]

4 minutes ago, interloper said:

Yeah beyond Irvin and Wells, your next immediate plug-and-play option is Zimmermann. That's not great. 

Then it's Akin, assuming he's being built up as a starter, which he damn well should be now. 

Then it's your prospects - Povich and McDermott. They might be ready in June or July but they aren't in April and May, probably. 

Emergency options at Norfolk include Ryan Watson? Andrew Suarez who last started big league games in 2018? 

Rough. 

Seth Johnson looked good last year and is already on the 40 man as well.

[Rbiggs2525]

This is Mcdermott chance to make it out of camp. Whenever I see UCL strain it is inevitable TJ is coming. 3 months, 6 months, 2 years it is coming. They will use Irvin and Wells to supplement but we should be ultra aggressive early before the deadline. Tough day for the organization.

[Just Regular]

47 minutes ago, TommyPickles said:

I will say, if you're looking for someone to fill in for a month or two in the rotation and then transition back to the bullpen, Tyler Wells is a great freaking candidate.

(Still devastated by all this though. Means and Bradish are my two favorite pitchers on the team, besides Felix)

Tyler Wells to the rescue again.    If only this year it was something quirky like getting beelined in the foot.

Roster Resource now with Baumann and Akin as last 2 relievers in the Top 13 for Day 1.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

2 hours ago, spleen1015 said:

Better sign Snell or Montgomery.

Would starting a GoFundMe persuade the Orioles to spend the money necessary? This will be interesting to observe how Rubenstein reacts to this first potential crisis. The sale isn't fully approved yet, but I have to think if Rubenstein approves of adding a veteran starter that Elias will land one.

[sportsfan8703]

I pointed this out in the Cease thread... we did just gain a team option for next year with Ryan O'Hearn when we settled in arbitration this week.  So that would give us an option for DH next year if we trade Kjerstad.