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Please remember to not discuss the Orioles selections in this thread, but in their own threads. Each one will have one made as usual. If one was not made, feel free to make one like the previous. I will try and keep up but may need some help as always.  Thanks for keeping things organized.  
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1 minute ago, Malike said:

It's been a year, who do you think I am, Kreskin?

Oh, you think guys drafted in 2023 should all be contributing in 2024, you were serious.

I think they should have at least developed one average reliever in five years of drafting. Not a huge ask. Obviously the book isn't written on their most recent drafts. Forret looks great, but he's a long way off.

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The elimination of minor league teams also plays into the decrease in high school players. There is no Bluefield or short-season team to help with the development of less experienced players, so the i

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Yankees drafted a pitcher that had 12 HBP for 2024.  They have their man that will hit Oriole batters for years to come.

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My nauseous pregnant wife who is on her way to bed just goes "Why aren't we drafting any pitchers?!?!"

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1 minute ago, ChosenOne21 said:

Fine. I'll eat my hat if they actually clear this logjam for good pitching at the deadline.

That said, at what point do you look at the state of organizational pitching and say, "Hey, this isn't working." Teams don't seem to be falling over themselves to trade top tier pitching for a couple of outfield prospects, even good ones. Heck, we couldn't even get Burnes without giving up pitching talent.

Teams seem to want pitching to trade pitching. If you don't have much in the way of pitching to begin with...

We let go of DL Hall and we're not reeling because of it.  Last I heard, it's not like DL Hall is doing great things in Milwaukee, either.

If we've got to trade Povich or McDermott this offseason in a package to get a #1 or #2 starter for a year or two, is anyone really upset about it?

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Just now, Moose Milligan said:

I don't know if they're going to do that every year.  But I think if there's another guy in a year or two that's like Burnes, they'll do it again.

Sure, and they should.

But it's not a sustainable way to build a team.

 

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1 minute ago, ChosenOne21 said:

I think they should have at least developed one average reliever in five years of drafting. Not a huge ask. Obviously the book isn't written on their most recent drafts. Forret looks great, but he's a long way off.

Zach Showalter got us Flaherty at the deadline. 

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Just now, Moose Milligan said:

We let go of DL Hall and we're not reeling because of it.  Last I heard, it's not like DL Hall is doing great things in Milwaukee, either.

If we've got to trade Povich or McDermott this offseason in a package to get a #1 or #2 starter for a year or two, is anyone really upset about it?

Really upset? No. But it's kind of like taking two steps forward and one step back.

I'm just saying it's much harder to build a critical mass of good to decent pitching when you have to trade some to get some.

We're not reeling because we don't have DL Hall, and honestly this year couldn't have gone worse for him. Would he have had a better year in our bullpen than Milwaukee's rotation? Maybe. Is he a talented pitcher? Yes, absolutely.

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1 minute ago, ChosenOne21 said:

I feel like I'm a broken record here.

Yes, and how did that work out?

I think we'd all like that deal back.

I think there is enough RP on the waiver wire and rule 5 draft they don't think they need to draft RP's in the draft as a priority.

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1 minute ago, ChosenOne21 said:

Really upset? No. But it's kind of like taking two steps forward and one step back.

I'm just saying it's much harder to build a critical mass of good to decent pitching when you have to trade some to get some.

We're not reeling because we don't have DL Hall, and honestly this year couldn't have gone worse for him. Would he have had a better year in our bullpen than Milwaukee's rotation? Maybe. Is he a talented pitcher? Yes, absolutely.

Yeah, so you let other organizations make the mistakes of drafting pitching and having it not work out.

Let your competitors make the mistakes.  In this case, the mistakes are drafting pitchers high in the draft, spending money on them and not having a lot of them work out.  Or spending several hundred million in free agency to have a guy get TJ.  

If you have to trade for a pitcher, you at least know the guy coming back is a proven commodity.  

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