Aug 1 @ Cleveland

[mrbig1]

Bad news Cleveland has one of the best bullpens in baseball.

[eddie83]

1 minute ago, LookitsPuck said:

9 baserunners, only 4 1/3 IP, a ton of hard contact. As advertised. Hopefully it’s only up from here, but that was a brutal start. Suarez can do better than this and he didn’t cost our #5 best prospect.

I must be the only one who isn’t worried about who we gave up. 

[HowAboutThat]

7 minutes ago, Malike said:

Rogers can get guys out. I'm not a drama queen who is freaking out about a guy against one of the best contact hitting teams, pitching for the first time to a new catcher, and hasn't even had time with our own pitching coaches. So I'm not going to panic, but I'm a grown up, and I, like the rest of you, have not seen him pitch. The difference is, I'm not basing everything that has happened tonight on how he's going to be going forward.

Those are all valid points, but they don’t change the fact that he is terrible tonight, and his stats are not very promising.
 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, OnlyOneOriole said:

One of the 3 between JH, SB and CM plus Stowers and Norby for one of the big 3 elite pitchers who were available.

And if I needed to throw in Heston and sign AS for next year?  I would have. 

 

What three elite pitchers were available? 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, eddie83 said:

I must be the only one who isn’t worried about who we gave up. 

I'm not.

 

[LookitsPuck]

1 minute ago, mrbig1 said:

Bad news Cleveland has one of the best bullpens in baseball.

This game is effectively over unless the O’s score in the 6th, it seems.

[Malike]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I was just trying to put "2021 All-Star" into proper perspective. 

He was worth 4.3 fWAR in 2021, I believe that's all-star WAR.

[OnlyOneOriole]

12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Adam Frazier was an All-star in 2021.

So was Mike Zunino.

All stars in baseball these days are like NFL players who used to play in the Pro bowl. 

It means nothing.

Edited August 2 by OnlyOneOriole

[oriolediehard]

We be lucky to split this series!!  Likely the Yankees sweep the Jays.

[Roy Firestone]

we look like crap tonight...this would have been a good game to win.

[Jagwar]

2 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Freaking guy never him met his teammates before todays game. 
 

Let’s throw his under the bus.  

You think he gave up 6 hits and 3 BBs in 4.1 innings because they didn't use nametags?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Malike said:

He was worth 4.3 fWAR in 2021, I believe that's all-star WAR.

Sure.

Then say that.

I don't like citing All-Star designation is if it's particularly meaningful.

[OnlyOneOriole]

3 minutes ago, Malike said:

Yeah, but he's the one that got away. Well Nelson Cruz, too.

Both Manny and Cruz went on to have excellent careers after leaving the Os.

So yeah.  Forget what the team did after they left.  The fact is both were and are excellent players after they were gone. 

Unless you want to debate that?

[LookitsPuck]

2 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

I must be the only one who isn’t worried about who we gave up. 

It’s insult to injury. 

[eddie83]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm not.

 

I’m rooting for both but I see a #4 OF and a kid who doesn’t have a position.