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NewMarketSean Hangout Grand Counsel

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I have absolutely no clue what the real world value of getting over .500 would be. Sure its a milestone we haven't reached in 15 years, but would it have any real effect on the team going into next year? Does anyone really believe the players are going to play better next year if we get to .500 than if we go say 80 - 82?

Isn't this more of a fan goal than anything else?

Well to have a winning season you would always be in the WC hunt, so there is that. Then you have a chance to sign FA's and make them feel like you're the next up and coming team. And yes, it appeases the fans. I don't know about you but if the Pirates have a winning season this year I don't want the Orioles to be the team that everyone looks to as having the most losing seasons in a row.

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Eh--depends on your definition. Alvarez and Hughes at 97 are 23rd and 24th in the AL in starters ERA (which seems to me slightly above average...14 teams in the AL, 5 spots per team, you do the math). James Shields has a 4.18 ERA and his ERA+ is 88. Seems to me the ERA+ metrics are a little odd (does it not take into account quality of opponent?). Perhaps we'd be better off doing a simple ERA based criteria.

So what's the verdict on this bet, amigo? For the record, I'm a big fan of Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy right now. :D

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Start out by unloading Mark "Mr. K" Reynolds. He is a liability at the plate and in the field . He is just dreadful.

He is what I remember being during my Little League days--an easy out. The Orioles will never win with Reynolds in the lineup.

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Honestly, I'm willing to give up the cavalry just bc they're so maddening. Once you think they turned the corner, they just implode. I see no light at the end of the tunnel for the cavalry, except for Britton.

I'd wait until after tomorrow before excepting Britton.

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Todd-O Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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I don't see a way to salvage this season without compromising the future.

I have been looking for the past month.

On the bright side I do feel a lot more optimistic about 2013 then I did about 2012 when they were breaking camp.

I have to say, I agree with this. But, if you really think about it. What future? We have a small handful of possible studs. Repeat , possible. Another is in high A, the other AA. we have no real proof they are the real MLB deal. I feel like the O's have gone down this road....

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Haha, this comment is great right now. It's kind of still true, in that Jones and Wieters are still the true studs, but here we are nonetheless.

OFFNY is the Ghost of Posts Past. :eek:

Seriously, you have to hand it to NMS. He has been SUPER-positive as of late, and he even removed the bag-on-his head avatar after we on our 82nd game of the season.

Also, he is FAAAAAAAR from alone in his (at that time) doubts about the 2012 Orioles. ;)

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Yes, there IS a way out !!! ;)

I came about two seconds from neg repping you for this bump. Seriously, if you really want to start bumping things just let me know. I'll be happy to find some of your schizophrenic posts. Wait, that's right, you probably take enough happy pills to keep yourself positive throughout all 14 years of ineptitude.

Obviously we all are happy with the way this team has out played every single indicator, but that doesn't change the fact that this team certainly looked cooked back then. I'm glad I was wrong. There you happy? I WAS WRONG! Gheesh. :rolleyes:

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I came about two seconds from neg repping you for this bump. Seriously, if you really want to start bumping things just let me know. I'll be happy to find some of your schizophrenic posts. Wait, that's right, you probably take enough happy pills to keep yourself positive throughout all 14 years of ineptitude.

Obviously we all are happy with the way this team has out played every single indicator, but that doesn't change the fact that this team certainly looked cooked back then. I'm glad I was wrong. There you happy? I WAS WRONG! Gheesh. :rolleyes:

I don't know that you were wrong, a number of elements that dug the hole are still around, DD and Buck have fought uphill all season, and as fun as this year is, those two will need more organizational support to keep it from being a one-year phenomenon. At least in my humble estimation.

I am celebrating every win this year, but with a cautious eye on the future....

-Don

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I came about two seconds from neg repping you for this bump. Seriously, if you really want to start bumping things just let me know. I'll be happy to find some of your schizophrenic posts. Wait, that's right, you probably take enough happy pills to keep yourself positive throughout all 14 years of ineptitude.

Obviously we all are happy with the way this team has out played every single indicator, but that doesn't change the fact that this team certainly looked cooked back then. I'm glad I was wrong. There you happy? I WAS WRONG! Gheesh. :rolleyes:

I don't see why the bump was needed but wow...

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I came about two seconds from neg repping you for this bump. Seriously, if you really want to start bumping things just let me know. I'll be happy to find some of your schizophrenic posts. Wait, that's right, you probably take enough happy pills to keep yourself positive throughout all 14 years of ineptitude.

Obviously we all are happy with the way this team has out played every single indicator, but that doesn't change the fact that this team certainly looked cooked back then. I'm glad I was wrong. There you happy? I WAS WRONG! Gheesh. :rolleyes:

Yikes man, this seems like an over-the-top response. Particulary after you just rubbed the Ayala thread in the face of 9 different posters.

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