The #Orioles have declined Mark Reynolds' $11 mm option for 2013

[Can_of_corn]

And into double plays more often than K's as well.

Exactly.

[Ohfan67]

DD said that he thought Chris Davis could play 1B. He said they need to get him some work there.

Not sure what the means yet.

Near the end of the season while discussing Davis' play in RF with reporters, Buck said something like, "And we still think he can be a heck of a first basemen".

I think Davis plays first next year.

[wildcard]

Near the end of the season while discussing Davis' play in RF with reporters, Buck said something like, "And we still think he can be a heck of a first basemen".

I think Davis plays first next year.

Davis has to show a whole lot more defense at 1st then he showed last year. He better start working at 1st now. I wonder if they expect Hardy to win another GG with Davis at first?

[TradeAngelos]

Reynolds is smack in the middle of a hitter's prime, and plays good defense at first. He is a good fit, good in the clubhouse and anything similar on the open market will be more expensive.

Sign him to a 2 year deal with an option for a 3rd and forget about yet another scrap heap player for a year that will just be replaced....with another scrap heap player in 2014.

[weams]

Below is the the quote I responded to initially from Bradysburns who described what DD said. I understand the 9 mil figure might not be an exact DD quote. 9 mil does seam like a realistic figure that he "could" get in arbitration and likely something DD might not be willing to risk.

I think they would be happy to have him for 6 or 7. Not sure about arb.

[OFFNY]

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Before we simply presume that we can plug in just anyone (Chris Davis and/or another good hitter) at first base in lieu of Reynolds, let us not forget how enraged we all were in the early part of this season when we had combinations of Davis at first base and Reynolds at 3rd, and Betemit at 3rd base and Davis at first. Our defense went from being the worst in the league to one of the best when Reynolds took over at 1st base, and Machado took over at 3rd. I don't think that we can take that for granted.

On the positive side, I think that Mark Reynolds needs the Orioles as much as we need him, particularly because I think that we value him at least as much (if not more) than any other major league team does right now, and I think that Reynolds knows that. I would be surprised if we didn't get something done in which both sides would be happy.

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[jjnono]

Reynolds is smack in the middle of a hitter's prime, and plays good defense at first. He is a good fit, good in the clubhouse and anything similar on the open market will be more expensive.

Sign him to a 2 year deal with an option for a 3rd and forget about yet another scrap heap player for a year that will just be replaced....with another scrap heap player in 2014.

I'd pay 9-10 MM for Adam LaRoche, but not Reynolds...

[epic]

Near the end of the season while discussing Davis' play in RF with reporters, Buck said something like, "And we still think he can be a heck of a first basemen".

I think Davis plays first next year.

I believe Davis is going to be our first baseman next year. I think they like and believe in his athletic ability and obviously his bat.

However, I think they'll keep an eye on Reynolds in free agency. It's clear that he fits in well with the team but I don't think DD wants to pay him what he would get in arbitration. I can see him offering something between 5 and 7 million for one year. I think that's about what other teams will be looking to pay him too but someone may go to 2 years.

I think DD ultimately likes Reynolds and what he's done for the team the last two years, but he's not gonna shell any serious cash out to keep him around. He's a flawed player who admittedly looks like he's found a home at first, but shouldn't be too hard to replace with someone internally (Davis) or through a trade (Hosmer, Butler, others, etc).

[TradeAngelos]

I'd pay 9-10 MM for Adam LaRoche, but not Reynolds...

Who said Reynolds was going to cost $9-10 million? He isn't.

LaRoche is also 4 years older.

I would rather have Reynolds for 7 million, instead of Laroche for 10 million over the next 2-3 years.

[Orange_Crush]

I think the Orioles are in a good position with Reynolds. The free agent market is pretty thin at first base. the best potential free agent is Adam Laroche and I doubt if Washington lets him hit the street. After Laroche, the free agent market has guys like Pena, Wigginton, etc. The Orioles can negotiate with Reynolds for a month and offer him arbitration if they can't hammer out a deal. If the Orioles can't swing a trade for a first baseman, they pretty much have Reynolds as a fall back plan.

Pena is a carbon copy of Reynolds. Though a worse average. Wiggington is a pretty underrated player. Youk is likely to be an FA. I love his attitude, hes so fearless. Doesn't take crap from anybody. Not afraid to take one for the team. He may have played for Boston but I always admired the guys work ethic.

[Orange_Crush]

Davis has to show a whole lot more defense at 1st then he showed last year. He better start working at 1st now. I wonder if they expect Hardy to win another GG with Davis at first?

Hardy had a great season and Reynolds wasn't at 1st for most of it. Not saying you don't have a point but I think you're giving Reynolds a bit much credit for why Hardy won. Sure he saved some throws but it's not like the other 4ish months Hardy was a slouch or anything.

[Orange_Crush]

Batting average and strikeouts, huh? You know, our understanding of baseball has really progressed in the last 30 years. You might want to get on board.

If that didn't matter why are people chomping at the bit saying NY should get rid of Granderson? He is a much better player overall than Reynolds and hit nearly double HRs yet the media says he should go because come playoff time all he did was whiff. Kind of like Reynolds. These prone to strikeout guys may post some numbers during a 162 game season(in Reynolds case about 2 weeks against the Yankees was 1/3 of his season) but come playoff time they are a lot more likely to bomb due to facing good pitching that can easily explout their tendencies.

[jtschrei]

Agreed. The question I have is this: Is Nick Swisher an upgrade as an everyday 1B. I hadn't thought about this until now.

Swisher:

2012 Totals , 146 Hits, 77 Walks, .272 BA, .364 OBP, .837 OPS, 24 HRs, 93 RBIs, 141 Ks (Swisher is a switch hitter who hits pretty well from both sides) (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=swishni01&year=&t=b)

Reynolds:

2012 Totals, 101 Hits, 69 Walks, .221 BA, .335 OBP, .763 OPS, 23 HRs, 69 RBIs, 159 Ks (Reynolds is 29, 2 years younger than Swisher)

I think they both will cost around 9 million. Swisher might get a longer deal. I could see DD trying to sign Swisher instead, but I think Reynolds has more upside. We'll see.

[El Gordo]

No surprise at all that the option was declined. Non-tendering him on Nov. 30 would be a much more serious step.

I think the only way he is non tendered is if they think they can get a reasonable deal from Swisher. I doubt that. I think they work out a 2 year deal with and option for Reynolds.

[epic]

If that didn't matter why are people chomping at the bit saying NY should get rid of Granderson? He is a much better player overall than Reynolds and hit nearly double HRs yet the media says he should go because come playoff time all he did was whiff. Kind of like Reynolds. These prone to strikeout guys may post some numbers during a 162 game season(in Reynolds case about 2 weeks against the Yankees was 1/3 of his season) but come playoff time they are a lot more likely to bomb due to facing good pitching that can easily explout their tendencies.

Who's saying they should get rid of Granderson? Some idiots in the NYC media?

Granderson is perfect for that ballpark and had a good year this year. There's no way they're getting rid of him with both Swisher and Potentially Ichiro on their way out too.