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Do you think Schoop will be traded?


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We sure do have a lot of second base types that are close to being everyday guys.

Season	Team	G	PA	HR	R	RBI	SB	BB%	K%	ISO	BABIP	AVG	OBP	SLG	wOBA	wRC+	BsR	Off	Def	WAR2014	Steamer	91	365	11	39	39	4	6.7 %	21.7 %	.151	.270	.232	.289	.383	.294	80	-0.1	-8.3	2.4	0.72014	Oliver	143	600	21	64	74	3	6.2 %	24.8 %	.168	.277	.231	.289	.399	.301	85	0.3	-10.0	7.9	1.92014	Fans (8)	105	406	11	43	43	4	7.4 %	21.4 %	.137	.284	.240	.300	.377	.299	83	-0.3	-8.0	6.6	1.3

These are Ryan Flaherty's 2014 projections and he is already in camp working to be the everyday starter. Jim Thome think's he'll be a star.

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There really is no good choice in the FA pool to improve our pitching. You either give up a pick for a marginal, questionable pitcher or you sign a guy who likely is no better than the in house options. We have definitely stockpiled outfielders. I have no idea if the plan is to trade for a high salaried pitcher, but it does make sense for us, especially if that team would take back Markakis in the deal to neutralize a little bit of the contract. The Cliff Lee scenario, although a bit far fetched, might make a great deal of sense all the way around.

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Agree with RZNJ here. But I don't think Schoop gets traded before we find out if Flaherty can handle 2B as an everyday player. This is really a make or break year for Flaherty. Either he becomes an everyday player or he sucks and stays as a utility guy or guy that rides the shuttle between AAA and the ML. He's not that young anymore and we really need to see what kind of numbers he can put up with an everyday spot.

Schoop is still very young. I think DD is waiting to see what will happen with Flaherty. If Flaherty stinks, Schoop will be brought up fairly soon.

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I can't form an opinion on this until I know whether Hardy re-signs with us or not, i.e. whether we'll have one or two IF positions in question.

This.

There are several factors involved in whether Schoop gets traded.

1) Does Hardy get extended?

2) Can Schoop improve his numbers at AAA to improve his value?

3) Is Schoop better at 2B or does he outgrow it and become a better 3B?

4) Does Hardy have a no trade clause in the extension?

5) Can Flash hit lefties? Does he improve his hitting overall?

It too early to know whether Schoop gets traded.

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We need Schoop as backup in case 1) Flaherty stinks 2) Hardy is not extended and 3) Machado has a setback. If any of those things happen, we will need a full time IF prospect in 2014 or 2015. Also, all signs are pointing to the O's trying to build long term. I think if anything they will trade Hardy and Wieters to acquire more prospects rather than trade our best prospects to go for it now.

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Schoop has a plus arm that would be wasted at 2B

He needs to be groomed as a 3B

Machado needs to be moved to SS

Hardy needs to be traded for the best starting pitcher prospect(s) that we can get.

Why increase Machado's value for the free agent market. Hardy is a perfectly good SS.

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