Is Brent Gardner really a 12.5m a year player?

[Greg]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Gardner's deal is for $12.5m a year 2015-2018, plus 12.5m option 2019, 2m buyout</p>— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="

">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>

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This is a awful deal.

[waroriole]

He's consistently at least a 3 WAR player, the MFY have a lot of money. Seems like a good deal to me, even with the decline in defensive value.

[MurphDogg]

Yeah, it doesn't seem like a terrible deal to me. Oliver projects Gardner to be worth 11.6 WAR over 2015-2018. $13 million a year for that (factoring in the buyout) isn't unreasonable.

[Can_of_corn]

Is Ubaldo Jimenez?

[Can_of_corn]

Is that your opinion on Brett Gardner?

I think Gardner has every chance to be worth 4/50 that Jimenez does. (conveniently they are about the same age and making the same amount)

[fernandodfcosta]

Gardner has a weak arm.

I like this contrac.

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[webbrick2010]

Seems like a stretch to me, especially considering his (lack of) durability

Paying a premium for that career .352 OBP... which of course is better than any Oriole

OBP will be our achilles again this year.

[Loophole]

This is why it's silly to use these $/WAR figures like they mean anything to the richest and poorest teams. Dollars do not have the same value to the MFYs.

[SeaBird]

It's a good deal for the Yankees. He's only 29; he plays hard and gives 100%; he gets on base; he's always a threat to steal with his speed; and he plays great defense. He has had one major injury, a freak injury at that, which cost him almost all of the 2012 season when he hurt his elbow diving for a ball in the OF. If you look at him it's obvious he takes good care of himself.

[Frobby]

It's a good deal for the Yankees. He's only 29; he plays hard and gives 100%; he gets on base; he's always a threat to steal with his speed; and he plays great defense. He has had one major injury, a freak injury at that, which cost him almost all of the 2012 season when he hurt his elbow diving for a ball in the OF. If you look at him it's obvious he takes good care of himself.

Gardner is 30 now, turning 31 in August. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with this analysis. For the Yankees, he is worth 4/$52 mm. Isn't that what they paid Johnny Damon?

[waroriole]

Seems like a stretch to me, especially considering his (lack of) durability

Paying a premium for that career .352 OBP... which of course is better than any Oriole

OBP will be our achilles again this year.

You must be totally bummed about the past 2 weeks. A lot less to complain about now. You're gonna be miserable when we make the playoffs.

[OFFNY]

Seems like a stretch to me, especially considering his (lack of) durability

Paying a premium for that career .352 OBP... which of course is better than any Oriole

OBP will be our achilles again this year.

You must be totally bummed about the past 2 weeks. A lot less to complain about now. You're gonna be miserable when we make the playoffs.

If the Orioles win at least 54% of their games in April and May, he's going to be miserable a lot sooner than when and if the Orioles clinch a playoff birth in September.

[waroriole]

If the Orioles win at least 54% of their games in April and May, he's going to be miserable a lot sooner than when and if the Orioles clinch a playoff birth in September.

Why 54%?

[OFFNY]

Seems like a stretch to me, especially considering his (lack of) durability

Paying a premium for that career .352 OBP... which of course is better than any Oriole

OBP will be our achilles again this year.

You must be totally bummed about the past 2 weeks. A lot less to complain about now. You're gonna be miserable when we make the playoffs.

If the Orioles win at least 54% of their games in April and May, he's going to be miserable a lot sooner than when and if the Orioles clinch a playoff birth in September.

Why 54%?

AT LEAST 54 %.

That would be at a pace to finish at about 88-74. That would likely make a chronic complainer pretty miserable.

Anything more than that (55% or more), and he will undoubtedly be miserable well before the season's end by late September.

[scOtt]

He signed a contract for 12.5 so he's WORTH 12.5.