Os Sign O'Day for 4 Years - It's official

[weams]

Last time? I'd guess Bedard. The Orioles have been contenders for a little while now, and are therefore far less likely to be trading key pieces at peak value.

Koji was traded at absolute peak value. For a peak return.

[Number5]

They also traded Koji at pretty close to peak value.

[El Gordo]

Good move/bad move, depending on the budget ceiling and whether there are trade possibilities in the works.

[weams]

Then you agree? Britton will not be traded. That was my point.

This offseason? No. Not without a haul. For a haul? Maybe.

[Aristotelian]

I asked when the last time the Orioles traded a player at peak value. Jim Johnson was not traded at peak value. Trading a closer has nothing to do with my question.

The larger context of your specific question is a discussion over whether signing O'Day makes it more likely that the O's trade Britton. Obviously JJ was way less valuable than Britton, but it was still something of a surprise to the baseball community. There are obvious differences but to me it is relevant to the discussion. I understand your reasons for disagreeing.

If you want an answer to your specific question, then you have to go back to the Koji and Bedard trades. Seems like a long time ago, but still recent enough in the organization's memory that DD should understand the opportunity if one arises. DD knows very well how we got Davis and Jones.

[Elbren]

1. I like O'Day and wanted to see him back

2. I fully understood why they let Andrew Miller walk

With that said, how is it that they thought O'Day was worth almost $8 mil./year when they didn't think Miller was worth $9 mil./year?

[OsEatAlEast]

Something has to be up. Everything that's happened so far has gone completely against everything the Orioles usually do in the offseason.

I'm thinking along this line also. They might be bumping payroll up a fair share. O'Day coming back on this deal is a complete shocker to me.

Duquette is as pragmatic as they come. I doubt he would have blown a good portion of his budget this early unless he was assured there would be significant a bump in payroll.

[waroriole]

I'm thinking along this line also. They might be bumping payroll up a fair share.

Only if you think Davis is coming back. I don't, do you?

[Frobby]

He mean during the time that the player would have been an Oriole. So you are right. Koji was traded at the absolute pinnacle of what his value could have been while under Oriole contract.

As was Sherrill.

[weams]

Adam is happy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actual footage of <a href="https://twitter.com/DODay56">@DODay56</a> pitching in the eighth inning. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RoyalRevenge?src=hash">#RoyalRevenge</a> <a href="http://t.co/MFEKVgb1q8">pic.twitter.com/MFEKVgb1q8</a></p>— Orioles on MASN (@masnOrioles) <a href="

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[weams]

As was Sherrill.

Very true. So. Trade your closer. The Orioles way.

[TonySoprano]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting wrinkle in O'Day talks. Os VP Brady Anderson was involved. His old player agent was Jeff Borris, O'Day's agent. Mutual respect</p>— Dan Connolly (@danconnollysun) <a href="

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[Aristotelian]

The Orioles knew they weren't a contender then. They have not shown any inclination to show that they are willing to retool or rebuild. Trading Britton for prospect(s) is not part of their MO and they have shown ZERO signs of shifting their MO.

They have been contending for the last 3 years. Different situation this year. I am not going to predict a Britton trade, but I wouldn't be surprised either. That scenario seems more likely than a major payroll bump. Basically this whole offseason makes no sense to me so nothing will surprise me at this point.

[Tony-OH]

Givens should be better than Brach but how many games better, Tony? Come on. Hardy needs surgery and isn't going to get it on his shoulder. His back could act up at any time. Two years in a row with no power. He's done as an offensive force. Power was the only thing he brought to the table. Let's hope the defense doesn't start to slip. Jones had pretty close to a normal Jones year. Yes, there are time for some good low cost moves but the best outcome is to put a team that is still a cut below last year's on paper. I'm skeptical that the Orioles will even be real placers on the Kazmir types of starting pitching. Get used to seeing Vance Worley's name penciled in every 5th day.

I guess I'm just not going to get all up and arms on December 6th of the offseason. So far the only thing this offseason I've not been for is offering Wieters a QO. I don't think Davis is worth the money he's going to get from someone and I don't see the Orioles paying that for one guy who's name isn't Machado. The Orioles have a lot of power already, but they need consistent players, not guys who's hit .150 and strike out every other PA for long stretches. I'd like to see them in on Zobrist or Gordon rather than Davis honestly.

[Can_of_corn]

I guess I'm just not going to get all up and arms on December 6th of the offseason. So far the only thing this offseason I've not been for is offering Wieters a QO. I don't think Davis is worth the money he's going to get from someone and I don't see the Orioles paying that for one guy who's name isn't Machado. The Orioles have a lot of power already, but they need consistent players, not guys who's hit .150 and strike out every other PA for long stretches. I'd like to see them in on Zobrist or Gordon rather than Davis honestly.

I've heard 4/60 for Zobrist, would you still be interested at that price?