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2016 attendance (47 games): 1,254,220 [through 7/10/16]

2015 attendance (47 games): 1,374,105 [through 7/28/15]

Over the last 22 home dates, since the last time I did a comparison, we've drawn 45,820 fewer fans than in 2015, about 2,000 per game less than last year in that span.

Looking at the second half, we have the following weekend series: CLE, HOU (4), NYY, TBR (4), ARI. And we have the following weekday series: COL, TEX, BOS (2), WSN (2), TOR, BOS (4). Eyeballing that, I don't see much chance of catching up with last year. However, maybe if the race is tight in September, the O's can make up some ground on last year. Last year the O's drew 29,936 per game through 47 home dates, but only 26,679 per game the rest of the way. This year they've drawn 26,686 per game through 47 home dates.

Interesting. Certainly had some bigger weekend draws last year in BOS and WAS, and better overall weather. That said, there have been some really surprisingly weak games this year:

- 3 weekday games vs NYY that all drew under 20k

- The Memorial Day series vs. Boston that drew right around 20k for the 3 non-holiday games, in decent weather too.

- The weekend series vs NYY that drew a 3-game avg under 30k

On the bright side, attendance has really picked up since school let out. Since mid-June, only one game has drawn under 20k and it was game 1 of a double header. Aside from that, have averaged 37,000 over 11 dates.

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Interesting. Certainly had some bigger weekend draws last year in BOS and WAS, and better overall weather. That said, there have been some really surprisingly weak games this year:

- 3 weekday games vs NYY that all drew under 20k

- The Memorial Day series vs. Boston that drew right around 20k for the 3 non-holiday games, in decent weather too.

- The weekend series vs NYY that drew a 3-game avg under 30k

On the bright side, attendance has really picked up since school let out. Since mid-June, only one game has drawn under 20k and it was game 1 of a double header. Aside from that, have averaged 37,000 over 11 dates.

Bronies were everywhere. I think they scare folks off.

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Do you think not allowing 13 game season ticket holder, the ability to get OD tickets, impact on season ticket sells?

Not everybody can afford the 29 game plan.

Every thirteen game plan holder got to buy opening day tickets. They are just not part of the package.

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This was the 3rd consecutive 3-game series in which the Orioles went over 100,000 overall.

3-GAME SET, vs. Indians (July 22nd, 23rd, 24th)

GAME 1:O 39,358 o(85.6%)

GAME 2:O 31,946 o(69.5%)

GAME 3:O 37,821 o(82.3%)

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3-GAME TOTAL: OO) 109,125

3-GAME AVERAGE: oo 36, 375

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2016 attendance (53 dates): 1,426,707 [through 7/27/16]

2015 attendance (53 dates): 1,529,578 [through 7/31/15]

To equal last year, the O's need to average 31,924 the rest of the season, compared to the 26,919 they have averaged to date. They averaged 28,748 on the just-concluded homestand.

Only four homestands left in the year, including a short mid-week homestand next week:

TEX 3 (Aug. 2-4)

BOS 2, HOU 4*, WAS 2 (Aug. 16-23)

TOR 3, NYY 3* (Aug. 29 - Sept. 4)

TBR 4*, BOS 4, ARI 3* (Sept. 15-25)

* weekend series

Just eyeballing that, I think we will end up close to last year if the race goes down to the wire.

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Ticket prices did go up, by varying amounts depending on where your seats were located. I'd say on average the hike certainly exceeded 10%. So, it may well be that ticket revenue will be slightly up even though attendance is down. I'd still like to think that the fans will support the team a bit better if they are in the playoff race down the stretch. Last year's team was theoretically in it, but never got much traction and was under .500 for large chunks of the season. This team has had a winning record literally from day one, and has been pretty exciting to watch.

It was more like 20% on average season price increase. Another thing the Orioles did was move more games from Classic to Select. In 2015 the Orioles had 8 select games and in 2016 will have 23. They moved most of the games from Classic to Select. If you look at the pricing chart for 2016 the difference in price on those games could be $10.00 or more. Some go up seven or a few dollars between Classic and Select..

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2016/02/09/orioles-raising-season-ticket-prices-by-20-average.html

http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/bal/ticketing/group_seating.jsp

http://mlb.mlb.com/bal/downloads/y2015/group_seating_pricing.pdf

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What about having the best home record in baseball? Are you taking that into account here or simply glossing that over? You don't mention that. You seem satisfied that the ticket increase balances out but what to make of the home success not drawing in more fans? And, BTW, you're talking only about season plans. What percentage of the fans are we actually taking into account here? Feel free to expound. I'd like to know the reasons (all of the factors) that may be attributing to this attendance drop.

I don't think having the best home record in baseball halfway through the season buys you much in terms of attendance. The people who would go to the games anyway know. The casual fan may not. Prices for non-plan holders went up to. Up to 20% in some cases. That's a big jump, and makes the casual fan less likely to attend games generally, and when they do, they probably attend fewer games. Having a shot at the playoffs at the end of the season and being in a close race will drive up attendance, I imagine.

I don't know how many season plan holders the Orioles have. I imagine those are closely guarded numbers. They do provided a baseline attendance though that helps make up for weak draws, mid-week games, and poor weather.

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If they just bring back the Natty Boh's that will get the extra 1.5 k per game we need.

I wonder if they will start to eliminate some of those prime time prices. The Yankees are not drawing like they use to and even the Red Sox series as well was down. I think the extra price increase maybe hurting some and if they left it the same we would get more Orioles fans probably. The Yanks and Red Sox fans see it as a cheaper price then a home game but our fans just see it as a higher price.

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I am sure the higher ticket prices is the biggest factor in the attendance drop. And I think the drop would be bigger if the Orioles weren't doing so well.

Last year, we were more or less in the race right now, but playing .500ish ball. This team has been much more exciting and is winning its division. To me, last year our season was basically over towards the end of August, when we went from 62-57 to 63-67. At that point we had just finished a 1-6 road trip, and by the time the team returned home, there was no longer a playoff race to watch. So, we should have stronger crowds this September if we are still in the mix then.

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I am sure the higher ticket prices is the biggest factor in the attendance drop. And I think the drop would be bigger if the Orioles weren't doing so well.

Last year, we were more or less in the race right now, but playing .500ish ball. This team has been much more exciting and is winning its division. To me, last year our season was basically over towards the end of August, when we went from 62-57 to 63-67. At that point we had just finished a 1-6 road trip, and by the time the team returned home, there was no longer a playoff race to watch. So, we should have stronger crowds this September if we are still in the mix then.

I agree. They've also played .500 ball in July, so it's not like you've been seeing great games since the all star break.

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