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The starting pitching has been a big problem and we have tried to use Wright,Wilson,Ubaldo for awhile. After the break Buck made the move to Worley and Bundy. Those guys have pitched well but in turn the pen is falling apart in key middle inning spots because now we have those two pieces missing from middle innings.

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And the hitting stinks all of a sudden. Trumbo and Schoop are regressing to norms. Davis and Wieters are completely lost. AJ and Manny are scuffling. Only JJ, Kim, and Pedro are getting consistently good ABs and hitting the ball.

I would like to see both Wieters and Davis get some rest.

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The opening post makes a good point though. You put Worley and Bundy in the rotation, you lose your strongest middle relievers. One way or another, this team needs to add pitching if it wants to have a chance at winning the division. Either you need a starter so Worley or Bundy can go back to relief, or you need a better relief option for innings 5-7.

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The opening post makes a good point though. You put Worley and Bundy in the rotation, you lose your strongest middle relievers. One way or another, this team needs to add pitching if it wants to have a chance at winning the division. Either you need a starter so Worley or Bundy can go back to relief, or you need a better relief option for innings 5-7.

This.

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We robbed Peter to pay Paul and pretty much got what we paid for.

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The opening post makes a good point though. You put Worley and Bundy in the rotation, you lose your strongest middle relievers. One way or another, this team needs to add pitching if it wants to have a chance at winning the division. Either you need a starter so Worley or Bundy can go back to relief, or you need a better relief option for innings 5-7.

Yeah that's why i didn't get people saying don't get Cashner since he no better then Worley or Bundy. That may or may not be true but he isn't replacing them he would have replaced Despaigne or Roe at the time.

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The opening post makes a good point though. You put Worley and Bundy in the rotation, you lose your strongest middle relievers. One way or another, this team needs to add pitching if it wants to have a chance at winning the division. Either you need a starter so Worley or Bundy can go back to relief, or you need a better relief option for innings 5-7.

This is a very good point. The pitching NEEDS to be upgraded somehow. I'm hoping we get a reliever to upgrade over Despaigne (he has options and can be sent down till September) and a SP to push Worley/Bundy back into the long relief role. That would be the ideal deadline. Even something like Abad and Erasmo Ramirez

Tilly

Gaus

Gallardo

Erasmo

Worley/Bundy

Britton

Brach

O'day

Givens

Abad

Worley/Bundy

Ubaldo/Wilson/Wright

I think Wright could be a weapon out of the pen as well. It is that time in the season where we may need to give it a shot.

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And the hitting stinks all of a sudden. Trumbo and Schoop are regressing to norms. Davis and Wieters are completely lost. AJ and Manny are scuffling. Only JJ, Kim, and Pedro are getting consistently good ABs and hitting the ball.

I would like to see both Wieters and Davis get some rest.

It is almost as if the worst they do, Buck refuses to sit them.

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What choice does he have? The bench is horrible. Reimold has a .723 OPS and that's by far the best OPS among bench players on this team.

Already explained. Caleb should at least be playing every other day for defense if nothing else. Davis can sit vs LHP, shift Trumbo to 1B and give Kim some ABs or call up Mancini and go back to 12 pitchers.

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Already explained. Caleb should at least be playing every other day for defense if nothing else. Davis can sit vs LHP, shift Trumbo to 1B and give Kim some ABs or call up Mancini and go back to 12 pitchers.

Mancini is going to be the DH next year IMO if we don't keep Trumbo, with Sisco catching if Wieters doesn't come back

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