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Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

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He's got a 342 BABIP Tony, I'm not going by his 2016 numbers. I mean I'll include them in the total package but you have to expect him to regress. Just hopefully not to the extent Parra did last year.

He's already been regressing a bit. .563 OPS in his last 13 games, which includes 4 games before he went on the DL in June. But if he can approach his career numbers I'll be fine with that. He figures to play a lot vs. LHP.

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You pay someone $17 million a year to sit on the bench occasionally until they start hitting. Davis seems like the kind of guy that rises to the challenge eventually after struggling, but he also seems like the kind of guy that might need more of a breather every so often.

Just disagree. I think Chris wants to play every day and I think would not take kindly to sitting at all (similar to Adam, Manny, Schoop...guys that assume they are everyday players now). I think he is someone that has massive slumps and he will be allowed to play through them (given his on base and defensive contributions).

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We'll get our LOOGY eventually. Either on the last day or so of August or when rosters expand on Sept. 1st and we can use

Tolliver

Hart

Andy Oliver

Brian Duensing???

Unfortunately with Ubaldo we just don't have the space to carry one right now even if we made a good trade for one.

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And due to Ondrusek typically being better vs LH, we at least improved in the LOOGY department a bit without actually getting a LOOGY.

Getting Miley also means at least 20% of the games we'll have less need for a LH reliever because we'll have started a lefty.

And if McFarland gets healthy, he will probably be back. Or Donnie Hart who has had three scoreless appearances since being sent back to Bowie.

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And due to Ondrusek typically being better vs LH, we at least improved in the LOOGY department a bit without actually getting a LOOGY.

Getting Miley also means at least 20% of the games we'll have less need for a LH reliever because we'll have started a lefty.

Very good points

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Mixed feelings on this one. I like Pearce, but he's a rental and is only going to play part time. I guess I don't care that much about Heim given the depth we have at catcher in the minors, but I do think he'll be a viable back-up some day. So I'm about neutral on this one.

Would have to agree that "viable backup" is about what Heim's upside looks like at this point. If you take a look around the league, there isn't a starting C or even a very solid backup C who was still nearly this bad a hitter at age 21.

So, what we gave up is a guy whose reasonable projection --- if he stays healthy, if his bat continues to progress, if his defensive skills don't erode --- is that he could be a viable backup C in 3-4 years? If we can't get another one of those into the organization within that time span, we're in much bigger trouble than just missing out on the opportunity to run Jonah Heim out to catch Sunday afternoon games.

In return, we got a guy who has a top 10 WRC+ (147) in all of baseball this season. Of course he's probably going to regress a bit from that, but he's still a good hitter. He crushes lefties (always has), which we need. He can immediately step in and platoon with Kim in LF and/or Alvarez at DH. He gives Buck the ability to spell either Trumbo or Davis down the stretch without feeling like he's losing that much offense. He obviously becomes your first PH option off the bench against any lefty. And he gives you insurance at 5 positions (LF, RF, 1B, DH, and even 2B) in case of an injury.

This one's a no-brainer. I wish teams would give up good players for absolutely zero value in return too. But they don't. In this case, we got a good player, one who can help us in a lot of ways during our stretch run. And what we gave up in return is a guy who's at least 3 years away and will have to make HUGE strides at the plate to ever become much more than an organization's 3rd catcher.

That's a win. A big win. Especially for a team that has an open window right now, a window that will honestly probably be shut well before Heim ever makes his ML debut.

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Chris wants to play every day and I think would not take kindly to sitting at all .

I don't care what he does or doesn't take kindly to. I didn't take kindly to him being suspended for our 2014 playoff run either. If he's not playing well, at some point, he needs to sit. I think the plus side of getting him hot makes it worth it to play him but i'm not opposed to eventually sitting him or moving him down in the order if Pearce is red hot.

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And due to Ondrusek typically being better vs LH, we at least improved in the LOOGY department a bit without actually getting a LOOGY.

Getting Miley also means at least 20% of the games we'll have less need for a LH reliever because we'll have started a lefty.

Interesting way to look at Miley. A team could pinch hit a lefty but it forces them to use a bench player.

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