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240/296/387/684 may mean no QO for Wieters

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sportsfan8703 Hangout Grand Counsel

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MW's avg hit exit speed is like 45 mph. I love the guy, but he rarely drives the ball with authority. He's a 6'5" C that dinks and dumps his way to sub par offensive numbers. I don't think that's worth 17 million. Hopefully we work out a reasonable extension. But Boras though.

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That's not going to happen. You really think Scott Boras is going to be OK with a 3 yr/20 million dollar contract for Wieters? You really think that's his value?

Think 4/44 - 4/48 minimum.

What makes you think he is worth that? If anything, that is a maximum range, not a minimum.

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thezeroes Major Leaguer Rising Star

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Then why isn't he playing? And the guys most likely to be any better than Joseph aren't ready. And those guys need to be starting in the minors getting experience, not riding the bench.

I do not know why he is not playing. I am just stating that Caleb Joseph has an option as does Francisco Pena who happens to be on the Forty Man Roster. If Buck has such little faith in Caleb, Francisco would be sitting on the pine in his stead.

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That's not going to happen. You really think Scott Boras is going to be OK with a 3 yr/20 million dollar contract for Wieters? You really think that's his value?

Think 4/44 - 4/48 minimum.

I do think that's his value. That's probably what he was looking at last year, he took the QO to try and increase his value, and hasn't done anything since. He has put up 2.4 WAR total in the last four years and he will be 30 years old. I would not give him the QO and a 3 year commitment would be generous in my opinion.

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Bahama O's Fan Hangout Grand Counsel

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Last year Matt Wieters, a year younger, coming off a better year, couldn't get more than 1/16m.

Is he worth 3 times that now?

I think a lot of his lowered value was recovery from surgery. I think teams wanted to see him catch a full season before they will commit longer term to him, but I might be wrong.

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I think a lot of his lowered value was recovery from surgery. I think teams wanted to see him catch a full season before they will commit longer term to him' date=' but I might be wrong.[/quote']

Based on recent catcher signings, long term for a catcher is 2-3 years. Only the Cubs and Yankees have gone over that range and seems both regret that decision.

Also have to consider that he could be adversely effected by a QO.

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I think a lot of his lowered value was recovery from surgery. I think teams wanted to see him catch a full season before they will commit longer term to him' date=' but I might be wrong.[/quote']

I think you are right. Wanted to make sure he could go back to back and throw.

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