240/296/387/684 may mean no QO for Wieters

[TradeAngelos]

I think you are right. Wanted to make sure he could go back to back and throw.

The problem with that theory in relation to this offseason is that one would assume if he "wasn't healthy" last year or not "fully recovered", his performance would have gotten better, not worse.

Couple that with the fact he is now 31 and I highly doubt anyone is giving him multi years (enough to pass up 1/17 at least) and he would jump at the chance to make another 17m for a year.

And that is a number we just can't afford, unless you plan on playing with a 15 man roster.

If they thought it was bad for the payroll this year with him jumping at it, would be 10x worse this coming year. Which is why they can't even offer one.

[Frobby]

With two months to play, Wieters could still end up under .625 or over .750. I'll worry about whether he gets a QO when the season's over.

[TradeAngelos]

FYI this is what the top of the payroll would look like if Wieters took a qualifying offer.

Davis - 17

Brach - 4

Jones - 16.33

Hardy - 14

Jiminez -13.5

Gallardo -11

Britton - 10

Tillman - 11

Miley - 9

O'Day - 7

Schoop - 3.5

Machado - 10

Total - 126.33

Trumbo gone.

Alvarez gone

So take your pick. I was being pretty conservative with the arb estimates as well, they were from a while back. Schoop, Britton and Tillman could all get more with their performances this year. So let's call it 130m on 12 players, while losing probably 75 HR, and 2 guys out of lineup who are looking at .850ish OPS seasons. For a 31 year old declining catcher.

[Dark Helmet]

Pedro Alvarez will be brought back imo. Trumbo is as good as gone. I doubt they give him 4/60 or 5/75 someone will. Wieters won't affect Trumbo leaving. And Pedro will probably get a 2/12 or close. Again, Wieters won't stop that. I could see the O's going after Reddick. But I'm not sure I want to give him the 4 or 5 years he'll want. He's in Nick Markakis territory as far as risk goes.