Mike Wright's chance is coming

[Ruzious]

2 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

If you are going to be a reliever you have to be able to pitch back to back nights. Why burn one of the big 3 up 6 runs?  The other members of the pen were poor matchups. 

The second inning is what we were talking about.  Obviously, nobody has a problem using him on consecutive nights.  And there were other guys in the pen other than the big 3 that could have used the work in a 7-1 game.  

[eddie83]

18 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

The second inning is what we were talking about.  Obviously, nobody has a problem using him on consecutive nights.  And there were other guys in the pen other than the big 3 that could have used the work in a 7-1 game.  

Bleier or Hart vs 5 RH hitters to start the inning? Ubaldo is not trustworthy. If Britton is on team Buck manages different. He needs to be able to stay away from his big 3 as much as possible right now. If Zach comes back it makes life much easier. 

[LookitsPuck]

59 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Without Britton the pen is down to a big 3. Hard for me to get on Buck not wanting to use one of them up 6. The Red Sox have a RH dominate lineup, not exactly a great spot for Bleier or Hart and you can't trust Ubaldo in that spot. I mean Wright has to pitch there if you ask me. Clean and quick 8th inning. 

Buck pitched Givens on Wednesday when we were up big. 

And if Bleier can't get righties out, he has no business being with the club. He's a multi-inning reliever. And his numbers show he doesn't have any extreme splits (at least this year):

RHB: .242/.278/.364 - .641 OPS (37 PA)

LHB: .235/.381/.294 - .675 OPS (21 PA)

So, yeah. Why not Bleier there aside from Buck wanting to see how Wright responds in back to back games? I guess my take is why chance it unless this is pretty much how Duquette said they should be leveraging Wright going forward, i.e. abandoning him being a starter.

In the end, the other relievers that have come up: Aquino, Nuno, etc. just aren't any good. And Hart has regressed majorly. 

[LookitsPuck]

51 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

If you are going to be a reliever you have to be able to pitch back to back nights. Why burn one of the big 3 up 6 runs?  The other members of the pen were poor matchups. 

If you're going to be a reliever, maybe the team needs to put him on a reliever throwing schedule.

We've seen this team do this time and time again, i.e. not setting players up for success. Buck has brought up pitchers to start that haven't pitched seemingly in weeks. He also runs relievers ragged.

[Frobby]

52 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

To me, 7-1 is why you don't do it.  There's no point in risking a guy's health when you have a 7-1 lead.  Wright hitting 92 on his fastball - when he was hitting 98 the night before - concerns me.  

If pitching two days in a row is a health risk, then our entire bullpen (and every other bullpen in MLB) should be in the hospital.    Moreover, I'm not sure where 92 mph is coming from.   According to BrooksBaseball, Wright averaged 93.9 and maxed out at 95.3.    

[eddie83]

9 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

Buck pitched Givens on Wednesday when we were up big. 

And if Bleier can't get righties out, he has no business being with the club. He's a multi-inning reliever. And his numbers show he doesn't have any extreme splits (at least this year):

RHB: .242/.278/.364 - .641 OPS (37 PA)

LHB: .235/.381/.294 - .675 OPS (21 PA)

So, yeah. Why not Bleier there aside from Buck wanting to see how Wright responds in back to back games? I guess my take is why chance it unless this is pretty much how Duquette said they should be leveraging Wright going forward, i.e. abandoning him being a starter.

In the end, the other relievers that have come up: Aquino, Nuno, etc. just aren't any good. And Hart has regressed majorly. 

Up big?  You think being up 4 with 2 runners on base in the 6th is up big to a red hot Yankees team?

If Bleier was such a good pitcher then why in the hell did the Yankees let go of him? You are looking at a pretty small sample size. Bleier is your typical long man and spot starter. I mean if he was good at getting both sides of the plate out in short stints then why was he available to begin with?

I mean you act like the club has 7 relievers down there that can get both RH and LH out. It simply isn't the case. 

Perhaps they want to use Wright as a reliever. Why in a 6 run game is it such a bad time to pitch him back to back?  I mean at some point of he is going to be converted to the pen he has to pitch back to back. 

[eddie83]

16 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

If you're going to be a reliever, maybe the team needs to put him on a reliever throwing schedule.

We've seen this team do this time and time again, i.e. not setting players up for success. Buck has brought up pitchers to start that haven't pitched seemingly in weeks. He also runs relievers ragged.

My gosh I can't disagree more. Some people complain he pushes his starters too much and now it is his pen. You can't win. 

If Wright is in the pen then why in the world would he not be used as a reliever?

[LookitsPuck]

26 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Up big?  You think being up 4 with 2 runners on base in the 6th is up big to a red hot Yankees team?

If Bleier was such a good pitcher then why in the hell did the Yankees let go of him? You are looking at a pretty small sample size. Bleier is your typical long man and spot starter. I mean if he was good at getting both sides of the plate out in short stints then why was he available to begin with?

I mean you act like the club has 7 relievers down there that can get both RH and LH out. It simply isn't the case. 

Perhaps they want to use Wright as a reliever. Why in a 6 run game is it such a bad time to pitch him back to back?  I mean at some point of he is going to be converted to the pen he has to pitch back to back. 

You're acting as if Wright is some amazing, established reliever. He isn't.

[LookitsPuck]

25 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

My gosh I can't disagree more. Some people complain he pushes his starters too much and now it is his pen. You can't win. 

If Wright is in the pen then why in the world would he not be used as a reliever?

Sigh. Buck does push his guys too much. It's his MO. 

My point is get him on a reliever schedule or have some plan before throwing him into it. 

[Ruzious]

57 minutes ago, Frobby said:

If pitching two days in a row is a health risk, then our entire bullpen (and every other bullpen in MLB) should be in the hospital.    Moreover, I'm not sure where 92 mph is coming from.   According to BrooksBaseball, Wright averaged 93.9 and maxed out at 95.3.    

For the 3rd time... NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM USING HIM ON CONSECUTIVE DAYS.  It's using him the 2nd inning of the second game that's the problem.  He hit 92 MPH in his second inning.  He was hitting 97 and 98 the night before.  That's kind of a tipoff that there might be a problem.  Hopefully, he'll be back up to 97-98 in his next outing.  If he's not, we'll have to revisit this.    

[MDtransplant757]

2 hours ago, tntoriole said:

Re: Oriole failed starters who go to the pen...Question: Will Mike Wright end up being more like Tommy Hunter, Brian Matusz or Zach Britton?   

Depends on how he does in high leverage situations 

[sportsfan8703]

27 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

You're acting as if Wright is some amazing, established reliever. He isn't.

That's the point. He isn't. So why not let him pitch just the one inning last night and let him build some success and gain confidence?  

If we use him the same way we use Givens, I think he could be Givens like with a 98 mph FB, similar slider, and better change up. 

ERA doesn't matter to Buck. We're not going to see Wright go down because Hart gave up a HR. None of the shuttle guys have looked as good as him up here or even in AAA.  

He's not Brad Brach, but if he can fill that Asher role, then our pen becomes more solid. 

[SteveA]

21 hours ago, LookitsPuck said:

...which really doesn't make much sense because Ubaldo/Asher are pitching tomorrow...and is there anybody on Earth that thinks either of those guys are going to the leave the game with a lead...let alone a close game?

Asher leaves with a 3-1 lead.

[eddie83]

7 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

That's the point. He isn't. So why not let him pitch just the one inning last night and let him build some success and gain confidence?  

If we use him the same way we use Givens, I think he could be Givens like with a 98 mph FB, similar slider, and better change up. 

ERA doesn't matter to Buck. We're not going to see Wright go down because Hart gave up a HR. None of the shuttle guys have looked as good as him up here or even in AAA.  

He's not Brad Brach, but if he can fill that Asher role, then our pen becomes more solid. 

Once again 5 RH due to start inning and people want a lefty to start the inning?

[eddie83]

8 hours ago, LookitsPuck said:

Sigh. Buck does push his guys too much. It's his MO. 

My point is get him on a reliever schedule or have some plan before throwing him into it. 

At some point he has to pitch back to back. Why not last night?