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OsFanSinceThe80s Hangout Grand Counsel

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5 minutes ago, Norfolk orioles said:

They seem like a perfect trade candidate.

 

Think we could trade Britton for Ross? They seem to have plenty of starters and I doubt he would make their post season roster.

I would try Brach for Ross first.  Britton has to prove he his healthy before you trade him.  Also Nats might do Brach for Ross with the state of their bullpen especially if there are no better alternatives. 

This assumes the O's go into rebuilding mode, and not trade for this year's Parra or Feldman.  I would prefer as a fan they turn the ship around unlikely as that seems currently. 

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Just now, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I would try Brach for Ross first.  Britton has to prove he his healthy before you trade him.  Also Nats might do Brach for Ross with the state of their bullpen especially if there are no better alternatives. 

This assumes the O's go into rebuilding mode, and not trade for this year's Parra or Feldman.  I would prefer as a fan they turn the ship around unlikely as that seems currently. 

Me too.   As unlikely as it seems.   As I said in the buy or sell thread on themain bord today, I look at the 23 games starting tonight vs relatively weak opposition (including 13 vs the teams that are either just ahead of us for the last wild card or the Jays who are just behind us), to be kind of a barometer for which way to go.

I felt if we have a losing record (11-12 or worse) in those games vs relatively soft opposition... we would be .500 on July 5 when the schedule gets tough again, and likely not in wild card position.   And still 26 days in front of the trade deadline to strategize and execute a fire sale.

If we were 14-9 or better we would likely be  in wild card position, on an overall pace for 87+ wins, maybe getting Britton back.   I don't punt in that case.

12-11 or 13-10 would be kind of in-between cases, tough decision, we'd be over .500 but not by much and would still at best maybe be tied for the 2nd wild card.   Would have to make judgement based on whether good things seem to be trending or not (Gausman turning it around, O'Day back, hitting picking up, Manny getting hot, someone from the Norfolk shuttle solidifying the bullpen, still one of the best home teams in baseball, etc).

Well, we are 3 outs away from starting the 23 game stretch 0-1.   I said I would revisit that post on July 5 and see where we were then...

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I find it very hard to imagine that the Orioles' almost-87-year-old owner, who overpaid for Davis, Trumbo and O'Day so that the team would have a powerful offense and strong bullpen, enabling it to compete this year and next, would be open to going into sell mode. It may be the right thing to do -- that depends on what you can bring back -- but does anyone believe there's a real chance of it happening?

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1 minute ago, spiritof66 said:

I find it very hard to imagine that the Orioles' almost-87-year-old owner, who overpaid for Davis, Trumbo and O'Day so that the team would have a powerful offense and strong bullpen, enabling it to compete this year and next, would be open to going into sell mode. It may be the right thing to do -- that depends on what you can bring back -- but does anyone believe there's a real chance of it happening?

You are probably right.

 

One last big old FU to the fans that he's screwed over for so many years.

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1 minute ago, spiritof66 said:

I find it very hard to imagine that the Orioles' almost-87-year-old owner, who overpaid for Davis, Trumbo and O'Day so that the team would have a powerful offense and strong bullpen, enabling it to compete this year and next, would be open to going into sell mode. It may be the right thing to do -- that depends on what you can bring back -- but does anyone believe there's a real chance of it happening?

You think he is still the primary decision maker?   I don't think he has much at all to do with the running of the team anymore.

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5 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

I find it very hard to imagine that the Orioles' almost-87-year-old owner, who overpaid for Davis, Trumbo and O'Day so that the team would have a powerful offense and strong bullpen, enabling it to compete this year and next, would be open to going into sell mode. It may be the right thing to do -- that depends on what you can bring back -- but does anyone believe there's a real chance of it happening?

That's it in a nutshell. Angelos wants to see a World Series in his lifetime. And he's short on years. While selling would be the best move, I see the O's doing some hodgepodge that moves the needle in no real direction, the equivalent of getting stuck in the sand down to your axles. 

 

I see I missed the best part of the game while leaving to watch Better Call Saul. 

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1 minute ago, SteveA said:

You think he is still the primary decision maker?   I don't think he has much at all to do with the running of the team anymore.

I have no idea.  I haven't heard anything that makes me think he wouldn't be on a decision as important as this one would be.

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