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We are loading up our bullpen with minor leaguers. Hello, this is the major leagues. Right?  He'll fit right in with the other minor leaguers in our bullpen. But hey it's just pitching. Our team is last in the AL in ERA. No one ever said pitching wins ballgames... We never thought of that...

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3 hours ago, bpilktree said:

Maybe it is just that the Yanks are playing crazy over their head right now.  I think they are good but some of the numbers they are putting up is insane almost.  Yes Judge has been unreal but so has some other guys that have been in the majors 4 to 5 years and are way over performing their career stats.  Looking at their lineup with this year stats last year and career numbers.

Player                   This year                    last year                     Career average

Gardner               .268/.349/.854              .261/.351/.713               .264/.347/.741

Hicks                    .317/.429/1.013            .217/.281/.617                .234/.316/.691

Holiday                  .284/.384/.922             .246/.322/.783               .303/.382/.898            last 3 years   .265/.360/.801

Castro                    .325/.360/.891             .270/.300/.733              .282/.320/.735

Didi                         .327/.348/.848              .276/.304/.751             .266/.315/.717

 

Most of those guys are hitting a higher average then they have career obp  OPS for them is .100 points higher or Gardner  over .300 on Hicks.  Holliday is up .121 from previous three years.  Castro up .156  and Didi up .131.  You add that to Judge playing out of his mind and Castro playing great it is tough to stop them right now.

Holiday is the one guy that we could have gotten to help our team OBP.  Instead we doubled down on Homer ball and brought back Trumbo.  

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Not exactly a ringing endorsement from Buck. Not sure how long he lasts up here.

 

Reliever Jimmy Yacabonis came on and walked three of four hitters he faced, one forcing in a run with the bases loaded. He allowed two inherited runners to score that were charged to Tillman. He threw 20 pitches but just seven strikes. Was he nervous in his third major league game?

“Not necessarily,” Showalter said. “He’s had a track record of having command issues. It’s kind of carried over here, but he’s been able to get away with it at the level behind.”

 

http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2017/06/wrapping-up-another-loss-and-a-1-7-road-trip.html

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1 hour ago, Going Underground said:

Not exactly a ringing endorsement from Buck. Not sure how long he lasts up here.

 

Reliever Jimmy Yacabonis came on and walked three of four hitters he faced, one forcing in a run with the bases loaded. He allowed two inherited runners to score that were charged to Tillman. He threw 20 pitches but just seven strikes. Was he nervous in his third major league game?

“Not necessarily,” Showalter said. “He’s had a track record of having command issues. It’s kind of carried over here, but he’s been able to get away with it at the level behind.”

 

http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2017/06/wrapping-up-another-loss-and-a-1-7-road-trip.html

Yacabonis is not good. He's just here to be a body, because we've run the well dry.

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1 hour ago, Going Underground said:

Not exactly a ringing endorsement from Buck. Not sure how long he lasts up here.

 

Reliever Jimmy Yacabonis came on and walked three of four hitters he faced, one forcing in a run with the bases loaded. He allowed two inherited runners to score that were charged to Tillman. He threw 20 pitches but just seven strikes. Was he nervous in his third major league game?

“Not necessarily,” Showalter said. “He’s had a track record of having command issues. It’s kind of carried over here, but he’s been able to get away with it at the level behind.”

 

http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2017/06/wrapping-up-another-loss-and-a-1-7-road-trip.html

He wasn't nervous, he just stinks. Haha.

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It's hard to sugar-coat what Jimmy did last night, and Buck was brutally honest.  I mean... I could almost understand him not getting his breaking stuff in the strike zone, but his mechanics looked horrible on his fastballs.  If you can't command your fastball, you need to find another profession.  In his one defense, I'll say I thought the O's had him throwing breaking pitches when it's clear he's just a fastball pitcher.  They should have known that wouldn't work.  At least if he's going to fail, let him fail using his best pitch.    

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56 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

The guy doesn't belong in the major leagues.e have no alternatives. Hard and sad to watch.

It's utterly mindblowing that with a 160 mil payroll that it's as bad as it is concerning our pitching.

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We kind of all have to give the callups a mulligan.  We better get used to rooting for guys like Chricton, Yacabonis, Castro, Hart etc...  because these guys at least represent the future.  It's going to be real sad if all of them are bums.  

People are so eager to rebuild.  Well this is what you get at the beginning.  A bunch of guys that aren't blue chippers that you hope will develop into something.  Our last rebuild started out with having to root for guys like Melvin Mora, Trenidad Hubbard, Ryan Kohlmeier then later it was Chris Richard, Geronimo Gil, and Jay Gibbons.  

Our minor league system is similar to what it was back then.  A rebuild isn't going to be sexy the way the Yankees did it.  The cupboard is pretty empty in AAA/AA.  

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1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

We kind of all have to give the callups a mulligan.  We better get used to rooting for guys like Chricton, Yacabonis, Castro, Hart etc...  because these guys at least represent the future.  It's going to be real sad if all of them are bums.  

People are so eager to rebuild.  Well this is what you get at the beginning.  A bunch of guys that aren't blue chippers that you hope will develop into something.  Our last rebuild started out with having to root for guys like Melvin Mora, Trenidad Hubbard, Ryan Kohlmeier then later it was Chris Richard, Geronimo Gil, and Jay Gibbons.  

Our minor league system is similar to what it was back then.  A rebuild isn't going to be sexy the way the Yankees did it.  The cupboard is pretty empty in AAA/AA.  

If I understand correctly what you're saying, Melvin Mora does not belong on that list. He was a quality major leaguer. 

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11 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

If I understand correctly what you're saying, Melvin Mora does not belong on that list. He was a quality major leaguer. 

Exactly, but we had to weed through a lot to get to him, and at that time he was a 28 year old UTIL guy.  My point is that we're not going to be seeing can't miss blue chippers up here.  

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2 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Yacabonis, more like Yuckabonis so far.  I give him one more chance but that is it.  I had some hopes for him to be 6th or 7th inning pitcher. 

He's probably gone.   Both Ynoa and Nuno have been spotted in the Orioles clubhouse.   That probably means Wright to the DL and Yacabonis back to Norfolk.

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Just now, SteveA said:

He's probably gone.   Both Ynoa and Nuno have been spotted in the Orioles clubhouse.   That probably means Wright to the DL and Yacabonis back to Norfolk.

This sounds about right and I can't disagree with the moves.  Ynoa did well when he was up before.

Also it is time to end the shuttle between Baltimore and Norfolk.  Relievers that do well need to stay on the team. 

This shuttle will have to be utilized on occasion due to the starting pitching being so poor, that seems to be unavoidable. 

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