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Former number four overall pick.  Got to the majors and has stuck around, but it's tough to say he has met expectations.  That doesn't necessarily make him a bust. There are shades of gray between the two poles there.

But outside of half a season or so it seems he's done by the fourth or fifth innings.  He'd be in the bullpen by now if this team had even adequate starters, much less mediocre or good ones.

so with those outcomes versus his draft position does he quantity as a bust?  Not necessarily among the biggest busts ever or anything, but somewhere on the list of guys who didn't pan out?

or is it even too early to say still?

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No, he's not.  

He's had three effective seasons and one lousy one.  

Someone more in tuned to numbers than me will bring up the fact that's he's already produced more WAR than your average no. 4 pick ever does.  

Disappointment and bust are different things. Brian Matusz was a bust.  

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6 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

No.

He will either turn it around and/or have a turn around season in 2018.

Or he will end up like every Orioles starting pitching prospect. Breaking out with somebody else or an elite bullpen arm.

Here we go with this breaking out talk. Jake Arrieta is one pitcher. 

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Just now, thatbearflies said:

"Just some bad luck." 

Maybe I am just sick of watching this team and part of what he said is valid but come on. Hope his confidence shows up in the results column in the second half. 

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Just now, eddie83 said:

Maybe I am just sick of watching this team and part of what he said is valid but come on. Hope his confidence shows up in the results column in the second half. 

I shared your reaction, to be honest. I didn't feel like he owned his performance enough. I was expecting the usual, "what went wrong?" "Fastball command." But when he said, "just some bad luck," and "I wouldn't take back a single pitch." Even if you executed the pitches in the spots that you wanted them, you don't think some of the pitch choices were poor? I understand that you can't allow yourself to be consumed and dragged down by a poor performance, but if you just shrug this off (at least publicly) my concern is that you are not going to learn. 

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3 minutes ago, thatbearflies said:

I shared your reaction, to be honest. I didn't feel like he owned his performance enough. I was expecting the usual, "what went wrong?" "Fastball command." But when he said, "just some bad luck," and "I wouldn't take back a single pitch." Even if you executed the pitches in the spots that you wanted them, you don't think some of the pitch choices were poor? I understand that you can't allow yourself to be consumed and dragged down by a poor performance, but if you just shrug this off (at least publicly) my concern is that you are not going to learn. 

So 100 pitches for  12 outs is good?

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