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Or maybe our Mike Fiers acquisition.  I don't think Fiers is worth his own thread, but just saw his player note - an Astros reporter says the club will "surely attempt" to trade him before Friday's tender date.

Fiers's final arb season next year to me feels a lot like Trumbo's two years back - a reasonable major leaguer who outlived his usefulness to his then GM, but could be of use to us.  He's at least another option to sift through, and one there probably won't be much competition for.

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3 hours ago, OrioleDog said:

Or maybe our Mike Fiers acquisition.  I don't think Fiers is worth his own thread, but just saw his player note - an Astros reporter says the club will "surely attempt" to trade him before Friday's tender date.

Fiers's final arb season next year to me feels a lot like Trumbo's two years back - a reasonable major leaguer who outlived his usefulness to his then GM, but could be of use to us.  He's at least another option to sift through, and one there probably won't be much competition for.

And we thought Ubaldo was a dumpster fire. 

Literally, do not get this guy. NO

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Lol, I like Fiers. He had a 3.97 ERA through the first week of August. The guy just fell apart in his last 7-8 starts. He spun a gem against us last year. 7 IP 9ks 1ER. 

We currently have a rotation of Bundy, Gausman, Ynoa, Asher, Wright. 

He made 3.4 million last year in arb. What's he going to make this year?  5 million tops? Find me a better pitcher, with a track record, that is healthy, that we can sign for 1yr 5 million. 

The board lost its mind over Doug freaking Fister. Fister's ERA was .33 lower. C'mon. 

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9 hours ago, OrioleDog said:

Or maybe our Mike Fiers acquisition.  I don't think Fiers is worth his own thread, but just saw his player note - an Astros reporter says the club will "surely attempt" to trade him before Friday's tender date.

Fiers's final arb season next year to me feels a lot like Trumbo's two years back - a reasonable major leaguer who outlived his usefulness to his then GM, but could be of use to us.  He's at least another option to sift through, and one there probably won't be much competition for.

Yeah, I just read they were trying to trade him rather than non-tender him.  He's an affordable rotation option with an additional year of team control, he surely wouldn't cost much in a trade.  He had HR issues last year, but other than that he was a solid rotation piece and I doubt the 19.5% HR/FB will stay that high.

Also, it appears that he throws like 5 different pitches and 2 of them (cutter and curveball) aren't very good.  Perhaps he could improve by just throwing the weaker offerings less.

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On the Fiers note, what would you all think of this trade?  Purely speculation, but this seems like it'd work for both sides.

Britton to the Astros

Fiers, Rogelio Armenteros, and Abraham Toro-Hernandez (or other low minors upside guy) to the Orioles

The Orioles wouldn't get any TOP prospects in the deal, but they would save about 7 million and get two solid rotation options in one fell swoop.

The Astros give up Fiers (who they are reportedly considering non-tendering anyways). Armenterosa who is a MLB ready backend rotation guy who is behind higher upside pieces on the Astros but who would be the Orioles best upper minors rotation piece, and a young low level 3B with some upside in Toro-Hernandez.

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15 hours ago, OrioleDog said:

Or maybe our Mike Fiers acquisition.  I don't think Fiers is worth his own thread, but just saw his player note - an Astros reporter says the club will "surely attempt" to trade him before Friday's tender date.

Fiers's final arb season next year to me feels a lot like Trumbo's two years back - a reasonable major leaguer who outlived his usefulness to his then GM, but could be of use to us.  He's at least another option to sift through, and one there probably won't be much competition for.

Not bad but for a back end piece I’d rather have Musgrove. His HR/9 isn’t great (1.5) but it’s better than Fiers (1.88). Decent SO (8.1 p/9) and BB (2.3 p/9) numbers.

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17 hours ago, wildcard said:

On 1057thefan.com

https://www.mlb.com/orioles/fans/hot-stove-show

 

Likely Duq Nuggets:

"We've had initial discussions with several agents to see what players we can add to our ballclub."

"We are exploring potential trades to improve our ballclub,  Teams often call us about Zach and Manny, but we have no interest in trading them.  They should be on our ballclub this year.""

"We've had very preliminary discussions with Manny Machado about an extension, but don't see it happening anytime soon.  We do not anticpiate trading Manny either, there are a lot of teams that want him, but w're a better ballclub with him than without him."

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6 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

Likely Duq Nuggets:

"We've had initial discussions with several agents to see what players we can add to our ballclub."

"We are exploring potential trades to improve our ballclub,  Teams often call us about Zach and Manny, but we have no interest in trading them.  They should be on our ballclub this year.""

"We've had very preliminary discussions with Manny Machado about an extension, but don't see it happening anytime soon.  We do not anticpiate trading Manny either, there are a lot of teams that want him, but w're a better ballclub with him than without him."

I don’t he tips their hand. More along the lines of, “We’re in early discussions, blah, blah, blah.” But noncommittal.

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1 minute ago, Il BuonO said:

I don’t he tips their hand. More along the lines of, “We’re in early discussions, blah, blah, blah.” But noncommittal.

He’ll be noncommittal on just about everything.    He’ll say we need to improve the starting pitching but give no real clues as to how he plans to address it.   Ditto the desire to have more LH hitting.    Should be fascinating.  :rolleyes:

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