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55 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I wanted some commentary on Gausman.  Would love to get insight from a scout on why he starts out the first half of the season cold. 

Meh, I wouldn’t call 2 years of starting cold a major trend.   And in 2016, he actually got off to a good start — 3.45 ERA in his first 10 starts — but then had a fairly rough 8 starts (5.19) before settling in for the rest of the season (2.83 in his final 12 starts).

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17 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Meh, I wouldn’t call 2 years of starting cold a major trend.   And in 2016, he actually got off to a good start — 3.45 ERA in his first 10 starts — but then had a fairly rough 8 starts (5.19) before settling in for the rest of the season (2.83 in his final 12 starts).

Gausman is to hot and cold for a pitcher of his ability.  Looks like Ubaldo for a stretch and then does an imitation of a top of the rotation starter.  

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

I still have hopes for Bundy to be better than a no. 3.     I tend to agree with the scout that he doesn’t have the overwhelming stuff of a true ace like Scherzer.    But his pitchability is sky high, and will probably only get better with experience.   He just needs to learn to minimize the damage on the few days when he doesn’t have it.   He had 19 quality starts last year, but in the other 9 he allowed 5+ runs in 8 of them.

I was surprised that the scout thought Jones was still a 60 fielder and used to be 70+.     And in response to wildcard’s comment’s, I don’t see why the scout should have mentioned that Jones plays hurt a lot.    At the end of the day, that’s just part of the equation, and it’s true of many players.

I liked his comments about Schoop and Mancini.

Its pretty simple.  Players that play badly when they play hurt can be very good players when they are not hurt.  Players that play bad when the are not hurt are just bad players.

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4 hours ago, wildcard said:

Its pretty simple.  Players that play badly when they play hurt can be very good players when they are not hurt.  Players that play bad when the are not hurt are just bad players.

But if they’re regularly hurt, like Jones, then it doesn’t matter.    Do you expect him to be better this year than last?   I don’t.   

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5 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I wanted some commentary on Gausman.  Would love to get insight from a scout on why he starts out the first half of the season cold. 

I’ll give you some commentary on Gausman. He’s a guy with a fairly flat fastball that he relies on too much because he has trouble throwing his slider and change for strikes.  The slider isn’t very good most of the time so he’s a two pitch pitcher who does well the first time through the order but struggles afterwards.

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36 minutes ago, Frobby said:

But if they’re regularly hurt, like Jones, then it doesn’t matter.    Do you expect him to be better this year than last?   I don’t.   

Depends on the progress of Hays, Mullins, Santander, and Stewart.

If there are outfielders that can be productive in center when Jones needs days off. then Jones may be more productive when he plays.

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6 hours ago, Frobby said:

Meh, I wouldn’t call 2 years of starting cold a major trend.   And in 2016, he actually got off to a good start — 3.45 ERA in his first 10 starts — but then had a fairly rough 8 starts (5.19) before settling in for the rest of the season (2.83 in his final 12 starts).

I think Castillo had a negative impact on our pitching, and it didn’t help that he missed a bunch of ST. I’d like to see Joseph catch Gausman and Bundy primarily next year. 

Even though we only have two SP’s right now, they are young and have a ton of potential. 

I think if we were smart we’d lock up Schoop and Gausman this offseason. 

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4 hours ago, wildcard said:

Depends on the progress of Hays, Mullins, Santander, and Stewart.

If there are outfielders that can be productive in center when Jones needs days off. then Jones may be more productive when he plays.

If you could move him to RF he 'd be very productive.

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