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So why haven't there been extension talks with Manny in 2 years?


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8 minutes ago, TradeAngelos said:

LOLOL yeah the decision to pay Manny 300m is Dan Duquette's. Right. He is so incompetent. I mean what GM would want that guy anchoring the team for the next 10 years?

Don't think you understand what I was saying, but that's ok. 

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/09/22/report-baltimore-orioles-manny-machado-contract-extension/

Manny wasn’t asking for $300 mm.    It was during his pre-arb years and before his offense really took off (though his talent was completely undeniable IMO).    The O’s blew their very good opportunity to lock Manny up and seemingly didn’t try very hard after that.   It’s mind-blowing.   

Manny had 2 knee surgeries that took away a lot of playing time, a playoff run, and quite frankly, made any long term deal a risk.

Throw in the fact that this deal, even if done a couple years back, is going to be historically high, and its just not worth it for the Orioles.  

I think Manny will have another strong 5 to 6 years in him, but at 30 million per year, would you really want to pay for the second half of that contract when his numbers are nowhere near what his prime will be?  A team like the Orioles cannot do that.

The only argument to make is that we shouldn't have paid Davis or Trumbo, and that money could have gone a long way to getting a contract started with Manny, but still, the question remains, does Manny even want to be here?  I think the answer is no.  Manny wants the money, but he also wants the glamour of playing in a big market.  He'll get all of that somewhere other than Baltimore.

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Because the club would rather win in arbitration and pay players year to year instead of paying them now and risk some fall-off to their performance.  And there are some bad contracts that have happened like this, but most of these deals end up working well for both the player and team.  Just like everything else, the Orioles are woefully behind on using everything at their disposal to build a roster, and it boils down to the owner.  

There have only been two instances of the Orioles buying out arbitration years.  Nick Markakis was one, and Adam Jones was the second.  However, Adam Jones signed his before going to arbitration in his final time, so that one doesn't really count in my mind.  

Stupid how we turn our noses up at things that can help us, like this and the international market, especially since things have changed and you no longer have to have big money to play in the international market like it was for Matsui through Tanaka. 

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