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55 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Dang, how can I forgot Robbie.

thats going back to Hammonds and Brady's era.

and I forgot about T-Bone, of course another from long ago.

 

Markakis? Definitely has all the hitting tools and the arm. Solid catching the ball and had a couple years with double digit SBs. 

Mora?

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1 minute ago, tntoriole said:

Manny is definitely not a good base runner and foot speed is mediocre.  4 tool. 

To be clear, being a good baserunner is not a tool.   Being a fast baserunner is.    Felix Pie had that tool, but was a poor baserunner.    Manny doesn’t have that tool, and is a so-so baserunner.   

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1 hour ago, Redskins Rick said:

Dang, how can I forgot Robbie.

thats going back to Hammonds and Brady's era.

and I forgot about T-Bone, of course another from long ago.

 

Vlad Guerrero...except not when we had him.   But when I think of recent 5 tool guys, in his prime, Vlad was the prototype.   

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6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

To be clear, being a good baserunner is not a tool.   Being a fast baserunner is.    Felix Pie had that tool, but was a poor baserunner.    Manny doesn’t have that tool, and is a so-so baserunner.   

 

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

To be clear, being a good baserunner is not a tool.   Being a fast baserunner is.    Felix Pie had that tool, but was a poor baserunner.    Manny doesn’t have that tool, and is a so-so baserunner.   

This was my source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(0–9)

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3 hours ago, Number5 said:

Roberto Alomar.

 

2 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

Dang, how can I forgot Robbie.

thats going back to Hammonds and Brady's era.

and I forgot about T-Bone, of course another from long ago.

 

T-Bone?    You mean the guy with the .239 career BA, .645 career OPS?   https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/shelbjo01.shtml

As to Alomar, the only tool I’d question is power.   He had good pop for a 2B, but a .143 ISO doesn’t really stand out.

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6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

 

T-Bone?    You mean the guy with the .239 career BA, .645 career OPS?   https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/shelbjo01.shtml

As to Alomar, the only tool I’d question is power.   He had good pop for a 2B, but a .143 ISO doesn’t really stand out.

I agree...the true five tool superstar in baseball is rarified air...I think in my youth of the early Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Roberto Clemente, Hank Aaron in the 1960s part of his career  as five tool superstars...then Ken Griffey Jr., early Arod, Vlad Guerrero, Barry Bonds as more recent...

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